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The sordid and terrible truth is that most narcissists cheat. They simply don’t possess the moral code to care about and respect others … it is all firmly about them.

And, they have the ability to barefaced lie, grandstand their version of their integrity and infidelity and gaslight you horrifically into believing you have serious paranoia issues, and it’s your own stuff ththeat is causing you to doubt them.

Additionally, even if caught out, the narcissist can still play dirty tricks, like come up with new evidence to discredit what you know, make it your fault, or even discard you saying they were leaving you anyway.

How do we get released from this toxic torment? How can we know whether a person has the susceptibility to behave like this or not?

I promise you, there are ways we can be more aware, safeguarded and generate a life of sexual wholesomeness and trust after the trauma of narcissistic infidelity and that is why I wanted to grant you with this very important video.

 

 

Video Transcript

Okay, let’s jump straight into this Thriver TV Episode because this is a topic that so many people are dealing with in their narcissistic encounter … infidelity.

The reasons for this are simple – psychopathy, which is an inherent sickness of narcissism. It means that someone has the inability to respect and care for the moral code of others. Conscience is lacking, and there is no guilt associated with lying and cheating – the narcissist is operating merely on their own behalf, to fulfil their own agenda.

Quite simply narcissists are selfish, entitled and all about themselves. They don’t care about what they do to other people, they simply care about how their life may be affected if they are caught.

Attention from other lovers is one of the favoured ways that a narcissist can seek narcissistic supply, which is the acclaim and significance to feed the False Self to make it feel important. To have affairs and seek sexual stimulation outside of ‘committed’ relationships requires pathological lying, which a sociopathic person is totally capable of doing – including straight to another person’s face.

Narcissists feel like they can’t survive on their own, they need another person to have their false and ‘non-existent’ self mirrored back to them. A relationship offers that, (no matter how sick and distorted it is) to have another in their life to allow them to believe that they are significant and feel alive. When alone, narcissists cannot escape the engulfing of their inner wounds.

We may think that this desire for another is about ‘love’, but truly it isn’t. It is about addiction and neediness. It is about having as constant a source of narcissistic supply as possible, which includes fulfilling a sex addiction, which of course the primary partner can’t meet sufficiently to keep feeding the narcissistic ego to help it always feel propped up. Hence why outside sexual partners are sought.

 

Something Feels Off

There is something icky and unsavoury when we are with narcissistic partners, sexually, that makes us feel uneasy. Many of them have come from histories of infidelity and may profess that this not how they operate today. Also, they may have bragged about how they have had many sexual partners throughout their life.

Here are some things to definitely look out for:

Lack of integrity in other areas of their life, where they say bare-faced lies to clients, family or friends to make excuses, get out of something or cover their tracks for selfish non-caring behaviour towards others.

Sexualisation, meaning that this person makes you feel objectified. Does he or she regularly make comments about your sexual or body parts, and comments on your looks often, rather than connecting to your ‘person’, soul and emotions in ways that nourish your spirit?

Ignoring what you are doing, connected to or what matters to you and tending to have conversations about your physical attributes or sex instead.

Trying to have sex with you, when you are not in the mood, without connecting to you first in endearing and loving ways.

Making comments during sex that feel off and even disgusting to you.

Losing sexual response when having slow, tender sex, and needing rough, hard or erotic sex to stay stimulated.

Wanting sex with you when you are sick, tired or (for example) after you have had major surgery with no regard for your health, wellbeing or feelings.

Keeping and watching pornography of previous lovers.

Making dossiers of women and keeping albums and files on them (like trophies), including explicit and intimate photos.

Refusing to take personal responsibility for their sexually pushy or objectifying behaviour.

Constantly questioning your fidelity (pathological jealousy) or believing that you would never stray because there is no better man or women than what they are, and you would never look elsewhere (grandiosity).

Ability to start dating straightaway after a breakup, or the death of a partner, with no time out to heal, mourn or reflect.

The truth is, if this stuff is going on, you are going to feel switched off and empty after sex, unless of course, you are struggling with your own love or sex addictions, whereby the sex may feel very lustful and therefore satisfying to you, even though it will be fraught with threats of others.

The more you are in your heart and spiritual centre the less fulfilling it will be for you. The narcissist needs to seek lust, which is food for the ego to be satisfied with sex. This is unlikely to be satisfied by you as you start switching off as a result of being objectified. This is where new and extra-curriculum partners are required to satisfy this urge.

Rest assured, however, even if the sex does seem incredible, this is no way is a reason for a narcissist to not stray. Their ego is a greedy and insatiable entity.

 

 

We Feel Unsafe Yet Unsure of What is the Truth?

Narcissists are generally very skilled at cheating and covering their tracks. They will say whatever they need to, to make you believe that your gut feelings are wrong. And they will hide information – do things like put lovers under names that would never be suspected in their phones, as well as lock down certain information and details. Many narcissists have been playing these infidelity games for decades.

They may also profess that they always tell you the truth – even though you have caught them out on lies. If a person grandstands to you ‘I have never lied to you’ when you caught them out on lies, make no mistake this person is a sociopath – they have zero ability to take personal responsibility and face up to the fact they have lied, and trust needs to be regained. The narcissist is not interested in doing this, they are only interested in telling you what they wish to in order to keep operating as they do, in their delusional version of reality.

It can be so easy to doubt yourself when someone is looking you straight in the eye and professing that they have nothing to hide and that you have nothing to worry about when your twisting gut tells you otherwise. You know this person is capable of lying, as you’ve seen them do it in other areas of their life, and you know that they struggle with accountability, taking personal responsibility and being sorry for their actions that hurt others. Why would they have a conscience regarding extra sexual activity? The truth is, if this person is a narcissist, they don’t.

Additionally, it is likely that you know this person has a history of sexuality that is unsavoury, and you know that they have disregarded people as objects in the past. Quite possibly this person has left you feeling like this yourself. Maybe they have pushed sex on you when you weren’t well. Maybe they have ejaculated inside you without permission.

This is what I believe, that when we have done work on ourselves, and we are with people who have a conscience and intact integrity, we feel safe. Those who we know have poor integrity feel very unsafe, from an infidelity perspective to be with … and really why wouldn’t they? If they can lie about other things so easily, and are able to mine people for their own agendas, why wouldn’t that extend into the arena of sex? It is very likely that it does.

I love this saying, When we need to become a detective in our relationship, it is clearly in trouble. I couldn’t agree more.

 

Hoovering After Infidelity

So many people have been through the narcissist promising that he or she will never cheat again. However, if this person doesn’t have integrity or a conscience, and isn’t fully remorseful and taking complete ownership of what they have done, and feels entitled to be forgiven, have it forgotten and just move on (which narcissists do), then it will happen again.

Narcissism is full of boundary-pushing. If a narcissist knows that they can get away with something and you will forgive; then they just get smarter about how to cover it up next time. Even if he or she did try to be faithful for a time, the narcissist’s inner fractures and distorted wiring that causes them the sickness of narcissism will reappear and the narcissist will be powerless to stop their need to procure narcissistic supply from others again.

It’s an addiction, and if never healed, addictions win.

 

Projection After Cheating

Normal non-narcissistic people after screwing up and getting caught out – tell the truth. They are remorseful and cop it sweet. They don’t twist and turn and line up the person accusing them with projections. The ability to do this is totally sociopathic and pathological. It goes like this … lie told after lie to cover their tracks, then you being accused of being paranoid or cheating yourself and this is the reason why the narcissist wants to break it off with you.

Maybe the narcissist grandstands that it is all to do with the people from your past and your unhealed wounds as to why you can’t trust the narcissist – meaning it is your issue – and nothing at all to do with the narcissist’s suspicious behaviour.

This is where many narcissists trick their partner’s into relinquishing their boundaries, making them doubt themselves and think that it is them, even though their inner sirens are screaming. This is such a recipe for abuse and one that is beyond dangerous emotionally, mentally and spiritually. And physically – obviously you are exposing yourself to a host of sexually transmitted diseases to continue a relationship with this person. Narcissists often don’t practice safe sex.

To stay connected with a narcissist after this means that you won’t have the right to question or check up if something doesn’t feel right. Your boundaries and rights in the relationship are further eroded, as is your self- esteem and sanity.

This is totally my suggestion if you distrust the narcissist:

Be strong, and assert your right to have proof that the narcissist’s story is credible.

Check up, ask people and don’t fear looking stupid. Be prepared to lose it all including the relationship if you don’t have your needs met – which means: No proof no truth. You can’t continue a relationship without it, once trust has been threatened.

Refuse to be put off the track of receiving or finding out the truth. The narcissist will try to bring up every other subject to divert you and get you off topic. Don’t allow it. A true and honourable partner who cares about you will allow this and will have nothing to hide. It is only people with something to hide who are resistant to this.

I had an experience with an ex when he went missing, wouldn’t answer his phone and then called me half an hour later from the echo chamber of a toilet. He apparently was meeting up with a friend, who he refused to verify, and he would not allow me to meet them both for a drink. This ‘alibi’ turned out to not even be in the country at the time which I discovered when ringing the wife’s workplace.

Then, when he realised he was caught out on that lie, which he had previously defended with explicit lie after lie, the story changed to not even meeting up with anyone, going for a drive instead to think, and then dropping in a pub by himself for a drink, and then returning my call from the toilet for privacy (please … really??).  Yet I knew this was also him lying.

Previously I had asked his housemate about that night, and he told me he had rushed down a roast chicken dinner that his housemate had cooked him because he was running late to meet someone for drinks at 7pm.

If I hadn’t had the facts, I may have doubted myself. And I may have caved in to his persistent and brutal insistence that I had huge problems with paranoia and that he was 100% telling me the truth, and always had, which in itself was not true. (Infidelity about ex-girlfriend pornography that he had promised was deleted had previously happened.)

Thank goodness I had enough self-healing and power under my belt to cut the relationship immediately, go No Contact and never look back.

I am relaying this story, in my previous life, to you for a very good reason – to save your soul if you are put in a similar position.

Once we know someone is capable of cheating, lying and projecting (which may even include accusing you of cheating) this person is drastically unhealthy to be with. That is what narcissists do, and how they behave and all of us deserve so much better.

So, in closing, my absolute suggestion to you is to choose healthy people with credibility and integrity and who take responsibility for their actions and who care about and support others. This person may have been previously sexually exploitative, but who are they now? Do they tell the truth? Do their actions match their words? Do they care about the wellbeing of others? Are they generous, instead of doing life in relation to what they can get? Those are lovely indications of people who are unlikely to cheat.

Don’t stay in relationships with people who lack integrity. Not only will you not respect these people, you also won’t feel safe with them – and it’s likely you will end up suffering what your gut was telling you all along. We think we can change people into being decent people – but who they are at their core is who they are at their core.

If your gut goes off, then reserve your right to ask, investigate and seek the truth. If this person resists and refuses and projects than truly be a detective. You may be supplied with exactly the truth that sets you free. Even if you don’t receive the proof, get out … things are only going to get worse.

I hope this video has helped empower you, and please know I understand how hard it is when we are hooked in, to let go of someone who we desperately need to end it with. That is where my inner transformational resources can help you so much – granting you the inner shift to get strong enough to end the torture, get away and stay away from cheating narcissists, and help you heal yourself enough to align with decent real people with wholesome sexual morals and true integrity.

To get this process started, you can sign up for my free 16-day course as well as the invitation to my workshop, which will give you powerful relief, by clicking here.

So, until next time… keep smiling, keep healing and keep thriving because there’s nothing else to do

 

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49 thoughts on “Why Narcissists Cheat And How They Get Away With It

  1. Thanks Melanie. I enjoyed watching this video from the position of someone who has finally ended 30 years of narcissistic abuse. I can now calmly acknowledge everything you say without any resistance, self-doubt, regret for the lost years or fury – and I owe my salvation to you and the NARP program. I still live close to the narcissist – who is the father of my child and he will probably always be in my life; however I see him so clearly now. And I have to give him some credit for being the motivation for my much needed self-growth. The inner work I did, brought me to self-love and dignity. And I now carry this strong inner core with me wherever I go. I never feel alone. Yet when I started this journey to health, I was so sick, I couldn’t imagine that things could ever get better for me; and I loved and depended on him so much, I couldn’t envisage a life without him. And now I’m free, happy and strong – again thank you.

    1. Hi Jenny,

      I am so happy for you that you have set yourself free!

      How wonderful you have done the inner work and come to this place. You should be so proud of yourself Jenny.

      Thank you for being an inspiration to yourself and others.

      Mel 🙏💕❤️

      1. Good read. However, my ex partner accused me constantly for cheating lying because he had feelings or suspicions. I was abused and tormented for months on end and he accused me for being a narcissist because I genuinely thought he had trust issues from his past relationship as he claims she was unfaithful. There seems to be somethings in this post that would lead someone like my ex to believe I was a narcissist When I done nothing to this person. I never even gave him a reason to even think I was unfaithful. But he had a feeling of suspicion accused me, I didn’t understand, said he has trust issues from his past, because I’ve been through it too. He just thought I was trying to make him believe he was crazy and told me I was a narcissist and probably from reading something like this.

    2. Hi Jenny,
      I’m one year out of a 24 year marriage to a narc. Our story sounds identical. How long before you fully recovered? I too depended and loved him deeply but day by day I realize my self worth. Without Melanie’s NARP program, I truly think I would have died. A very intense life growing experience. Keep thriving Jenny
      Barbara

    3. Hi Jenny,
      Your story sounds exactly like mine, except I’m in the middle of feeling so much pain that at times I feel I can no longer continue.
      Two months ago the fog finally lifted after 31 years of lies and abuse, which I would take the blame for.
      I moved out of our bedroom two months ago and am looking for my own place with my younger son. We have three children together.
      I feel so lonely and cannot move forward from this pain. He is out every night, blantatly and openly taking a new women to hotels, dinners. He does things to spite and instigate a reaction.

      I’m trying to remain brave and positive, but at the moment it’s just too difficult.

      1. That is horrible I’m so sorry. I’m in a relationship now with a narc, and he’ll do the same thing, if we argue or fight, he threatens me by saying he’ll go out or text other women 😒 it’s beyond traumatizing. But he’ll sit there and cry about his childhood, and how he was raised by a narcissist and how it messed him up. I’m thinking, yea you’re just like him, traumatizing others yourself. I know it hurts to see him going out with other women but just know he is MISERABLE in his own skin. And one day after this is over you’ll be so free and happy and meet much better people or an actual ‘real’ man. Please stay strong and know non of this is your fault. He’s only doing this to make you upset, which is disgusting. But watch, the second you go out with another guy, he’d flip out. Narcs are the biggest hypocrites!

  2. This completely describes the ex. Love and sex addict. I went thru so much pain. I’m healed now and have a beautiful lover!!! I really appreciate your videos and teachings, they have helped me so much!

    1. Hi Mandy,

      I’m so thrilled for you that you are healed and out and living a completely different experience now.

      Thank you Mandy and I am so pleased and honoured that I could help.

      Mel 🙏💕❤️

  3. Hi Mel,

    I went through this cycle of abuse and cheating with my ex sociopath twice and was hooked in again the second time round being told what I wanted to hear and he even used another person who turned out to be yet another sociopath who posed as a friend backing his false statements. I would like to know what are the common wounds that create this kind of trauma to play out in our lives. I have since left my ex and it’s been many years and I would never fall for that bs again but I know that I have not healed the wounds in connection to that abuse that played out.

    Thanks
    Tasha

    1. Hi Tasha,

      Truly we do need to go within to find our wounds because they may be really unique to ourselves.

      With NARP you can target the traumas by calling on them, specifically, such as saying ‘I am targeting the traumas that have caused …..’ and then somewhere in your body will light up, and you can load up and remove the culprit.

      It is so much better to do this as direct communication with your body than try to guess what it may be.

      Having said that, some of the most common beliefs I have seen are ‘I can’t live without a man’ and ‘the people who love me hurt / betray / replace me.’

      There can be so many others responsible as well.

      Again the NARP Program is my strongest suggestion to you to powerfully and directly heal.

      Mel 🙏💕❤️

  4. Thanks Mel for another shedliad of insight. I 1 year out, healed almost, thanks to you and my closest. Towards the end, I was fronting his game and got clever, had him on find a friend on his I phone and silently watched for 2 months all the locations he was at while out of work ( again, never his fault) and they didn’t tally. He was so mad when I confronted him and still said the info was wrong. His flying monkeys were totally backing him too. Many fantastic lessons learned, the hard way, but I am strong.

  5. I felt sick watching this and realise how accurate it all is. I have been lied to constantly for the past couple of years having outed my Narc and he totally turned it back on me. His reaction was ferocious so I backed down and blamed myself completely – I’d misjudged things and got it wrong. He however told all our friends, then saying none of them wanted to mix with me having proven I no longer trusted him and had proved I didn’t love him. He went on and told his colleagues so I get the cold shoulder from them too. I’d already said sorry and begged him not to blacken my name as I was trusting him now and realised my mistake. “Take your punishment” he says.

    The past two years has seen me left alone whilst he continues to see our friends. He’s also made new friends 20-30 years younger than him, going to concerts of music he’d normally not like and refusing to let me meet them or tag along. He goes out at the weekends with nil notice and only tells me when he gets back as to what he did. I feel most of this is a lie as he’s always hated being alone and never eats in restaurants on his own. Yet he does this now all the time saying he’d prefer that to having me tag along. I’m pretty sure he’s jumping to someone else’s tune. He’s getting increasingly nasty, sometimes giving me the silent treatment for weeks, but at other times being nice. I’m so confused. My mental health is suffering. But with your help I’m learning his nature and at last making contingency plans to get out of my prison.

  6. thank you so much I’ve been through all of it ..without you id be still in it ..im friend working on healing

  7. Dear Melanie
    Thank you so much for your much needed insight, inspiration and true authenticity and clarity.
    Whilst listening to your video It reminded me of the abusive therapist , my ex-partners and finally at the feet of my mother and father. The thread goes all the way back and am now dealing with a narcissistic mother and sister, my father having passed.
    Thank you for this programme which I have only recently begun after a very painful situation with my only daughter who didn’t want to see me.
    I have spent my whole life trying to heal myself taking all the blame and all the projections, finally there is some space between this and I have a small glimpse of the truth.
    As a child I knew I would need courage, I didn’t know what for now I know.
    Thank you Melanie.
    Irene

    1. Dear Melanie,
      I am married to a potential narcissist, we have a 2 years old son, who he really loves. He was already married and has 2 kids, however he almost broke after divorce. He seems to be very pure and honest… I mean sometimes like a child who rather say something negative (which is the truth) , than to act and lie. He is highly sensitive, hypersensitive to environmental stress, etc.. So far, I couldn’t detect any lie comming from his mouth, also he is highly educated sociologist/philosopher with an doctor degree, a scholar who is in love with knowledge and thinking. Rather wants to spend time in library, however I’ve noticed that he likes to observe ppl and their behavior, of course he also looked at pretty young ladies infront of me, but it seems to me that he’s more like a boy who just watch them rather than a predator who is seeking for sexual adventures. He never gave me any reason to be suspicious nor ever lied to me. In his previous marriage he (as far as I know) was faithfull the whole 10 years… BUT, Every other point hits the narcissistic image. Is it possible that he may not be a full narcissist? Especially because he is not a lier or are such sexual traits just an aspect which not necessarily apply to every narc?

      1. Hi Isa,

        There are N’s or at the very least people who are abusive, distressful and disappointing to be in a relationship with that will not meet all the criteria.

        Our real truth is always this – Are our values and self being met in ways that fulfill us?

        If not – then its time to lay boundaries, but truthful and generate that truth for ourselves.

        Can he meet you there and be a loving team member or not?

        If he is lashing out with Narc behavior and you are not able to identify establish and demand true boundaries that he will work on to respect and love you healthily – then you don’t have a healthy, satisfying relationship – regardless of whether he is an N or where he is on the spectrum.

        Is this making sense?

        The reality for your life always lies in working on yourself enough to know your values and walk your truth regardless of what other people are or aren’t being or doing.

        It’s actually about your life and happiness and not who he is.

        I hope this makes sense.

        Mel 🙏💕💛

      2. Hi Isa
        Sounds a fair bit like my ex husband, who in my opinion is not primarily a narcissist, but Aspergers (these days ASD level 1; so you’re potentially dealing with at least two “interesting” spectrums). He is a single child and pretty spoilt by his mum (partly at least to avoid tantrums, would be my guess). This probably contributed to develop certain traits of narcissism. Also, it is not true that Aspies don’t care about how they are perceived – my ex is obsessed about the concept of making friends and connections, so I guess this adds potential for trauma when getting rejected and bullied for being the weird nerd… which again might favor traits of narcissism.
        I think it is a pretty tough constellation for a relationship when someone is brilliantly academically intelligent, but totally lacking everyday life-skills…
        My advice would be to leave it at one child; our second definitely busted our marriage, as I couldn’t cope caring for basically three kids at toddler level, of which the adult one was the most annoying….If I’m right, strengthen yourself in your head in case your son starts showing ASD symptoms. My eldest is fine, but my youngest is in many aspects similar to his dad. Try to make time to sit out tantrums, avoid bribing, take distress seriously but don’t overprotect, find strategies to avoid walking constantly on eggshells, because you deserve enjoying life!!! And don’t get your kid on the never ending therapy carousel, unless you really feel the need for particular interventions.

  8. Oh Melanie, as I am hearing your story and then thinking about mine (so funny how narcs all have the same bs stories), I can just remember the depths of hell that I was in. I didn’t trust this man. I didn’t respect him. I didn’t truly love him. I felt uncomfortable, he did things that were creepy and until I got honest with myself, that’s when I finally broke free. I thank God everyday that I am free of the insanity (because that’s what it was like being with this person). I knew deep down inside, my soul was in grave danger. It was at that point, that I got out and of course started my journey in healing from a narcissistic relationship.

    Through trials and tribulations…I got to the other side thanks to your program that guided me through this journey that connected me to me. Something I always lacked.

    If anyone is in this situation right now, please please please, love yourself enough to break free. Know that you will be ok once you start doing the work on yourself. No one needs this kind of human being in their life. NO ONE. Love yourself enough to know that you deserve better. I wish everyone lots of luck and sending out vibes of courage and healing. xoxoxo

    1. Hi Linda,

      I adore your honesty about how you felt in this relationship.

      How wonderful that you turned inwards with NARP to unravel and release the hooks that were keeping you bonded in there.

      Thank you for being such an inspiration to yourself and others.

      Many continued blessings to you.

      Mel 🙏💕❤️

    2. Thank you for your explanation and sharing. I have been dealing with the pain after narc cheating and am learning about this as I go. I had no idea this even existed and that Universe or God even allows these people to exist. I know, this is an extreme statement, but these are my feelings right now. Today I found out that he is playing a magical love and happiness with his new flame, 20+ years younger than him. She is in heaven and happy that she finally found the one. I have been in disbelief that my ex-partner has no remorse, no need to speak with me, no sense of emptiness or regret of losing us after 5 years after he stated how he is my man, how he wants to grow old with me etc etc. How can a person just move on after investing emotions and time and have no time to be sad or grieve or anything. It has been hard to understand. You clarified it a bit for me. I am recovering myself from all this as I am learning and realizing what has happened. I have sometimes so much anger and not such good well -wishes toward him and that does not feel good for me as well.

      I could relate to your video. I had felt in this relationship my twisted guts, only to tell myself it’s my stuff from the past and kept working on it…. I felt something was off and could never understand what. I was unable to trust completely. I felt as if when I gave a finger, he would take the whole hand, when I gave the hand, it was entire arm etc yet, he kept telling me that I just don’t open up while I kept sharing but I realized with time that he never shared any of his emotions or struggles or nothing. He seemed always strong and ” perfectly” put together. We broke up one time before (I went back because I though it was my fault and wanted to make amends) and both times before and now – I feel the same – like I was used, there was this sense of being used yet the inability to even say how. I could not even formulate a sentence about it. The ironic thing is, he always played sweet and kind sexually, never imposed anything on me. I did ntot feel used, but I did detect dissatisfied face when he did not get what he expected and I always felt bad that I did something wrong, It did feel like sometimes somehow I was a puppet; but again, how can you explain it? I thought it was me… There were times when I recovered my strength and power, felt good and it seemed like it was going OK, only to be followed by feeling like I was losing it again, like I was at the bottom of an emotional pit while he was fine and energetic and happy. It was up and down and up and down and it did occur to me that somehow he is stronger when I am weaker. After a disagreement, which he clearly never wanted to discuss or give answers, he pretended as if nothing happened. As if everything was fine and I was left with questioning myself as to why I was feeling like I was run down by a train.

      Anyway, I appreciate what you wrote here. It helps. Although I wish I had known about this kind of personality before. I had no idea. he is happy, having a new love, sex, romantic dinners and I am left to pick up pieces while this person who kept saying for 5 years that I was something in his life, does not even blink.

      What about women (or men) after us, how will they find out? Only from a painful experience? Should we as those who experienced it say something?

      Thanks for reading and listening. I am grateful for healing this experience is bringing me. It is not pleasant. I am grateful.

      Thank you for you words. They should be out in public everyday on social media for others to see so they know what to look for and what / who to avoid.

  9. Hi Melanie , I’m so glad to have found you , you really have helped to restore my sanity. I was with a man who I loved and I thought he had mental health problems, depression mainly. He played me for years and I got so caught up with the madness I was sucked in for 19 years. He said he had a job away and I got a phone call from a woman who he was living with. He had just started living a double life. He begged forgiveness the woman left. LI was so angry , the mask of niavitey fell and I doubted all he said I suddenly woke up to his compulsive lying. I was still very low and in love with him. After 6 months of me being very angry I made a decision to take him back and he told me he had met someone else a single parent with a teenage daughter just like our family. The next phase was him bullying me and devaluing me to the extent I was very fearful of him , he played mental cruelty games with me for years , stole money and rewrote a story for the court making me out to be the bad guy. I found evidence he was probably having affaires all over the place. I have learnt so much from you about his games. I’m so great full that you have turned your experiences into learning for us all. Our court battle is over I had to give him money which has cleared me out. I have my health and my daughter has suffered at his rejection and it is sad to see how this effects her life. He cut off from us completely. I don’t have any reason to contact him. I would be made a fool of again. I am so great full for these blogs. I feel like I have woken up. I still have fear that I may succumb to another person who is downright cruel and I would love to be in another relationship and share my life. I am beginning to feel powerful and am loving it. Life is good. But I do still have to remind myself of his cruel side as I did love him for so long. The funny thing is I felt safe with him but I now love myself. Keep blogging and thank you Melanie.

  10. Hi – I want to thank you for your wonderful and insightful videos and all of your information. I was with a Narc for 8 years, and I would always feel confused and out of sorts when I knew he was cheating but he was lying… He used to take his phone to bed with him… 2 yrs of break and I am finally better – and yes, my NARC moved on quickly to another woman – she finally threw him out of her life. But you see, he was stupid, I set up his passwords and I read email and FB and I knew saw her emails about his behavior. All of the same with me.. Plus add into the mix he is an alcoholic…

    OHHHHH – thank you so much for your information…

    1. Hi Marianne,

      You are very welcome.

      It is so true without inner reflection and self work people don’t change.

      The patterns continue.

      The important thing for us is that we heal and step into new and healthier love trajectories.

      Sending blessings to you.

      Mel 🙏💕❤️

    1. Hi Marcus,

      In no way in this community do we believe narcissism is gender specific. A definite percentage of our NARP community are men healing from narcissistic relationships – many of them being women.

      Mel 🙏💕❤️

  11. Hi Mel,
    Your program, your videos, your emails are all helping me so much. When i’m struggling, when I am doubting that I have the strength or resources to start again, when he blocks me at every turn when trying to sort out a property settlement that would allow me to move on, I turn to one of your podcast episodes or videos to remind me of why i’m here, out of the relationship that caused me so much confusion and anguish for so long.

    At times I can be so grateful, grateful that he finally attacked me physically, pushed me down, grabbed me around the throat, screamed terrible abuse at me, kicked me, threw things st me, tried to destroy things I valued. He finally crossed a boundary that could not be uncrossed. I had tried to leave him a number of times before because of his lies and infidelities but was always convinced by him that things would change, that he loved me and valued our relationship above anything. I know now he will never change. I am trying so hard to be strong, knowing that my strength and new found knowledge will lead me to a much better place, a place that is mine for the first time but I am sometimes thrown in to the maelstrom of doubt and sadness and fear of the unknown that lies ahead. Those times are the times that your words can bring me back and some of the fear of an unknown future can be put aside by n (almost) excitement about what lies ahead.

    Thank you Mel, thank you so much for the words I needed to hear, the words that do and will provide me the strength I need to move ahead on my own journey without him.

    Robyn

    1. Awwww Robyn,

      You have come so far darling lady and you are so right, there is nothing to go back to.

      Your True Self and True Life awaits you. Just keep clearing with NARP everything that hurts – every fear and every limiting belief and your True Life will start opening up and presenting to you in abundance.

      Together we have got this Robyn! We all have!

      Mel 🙏💕❤️

  12. I just found your blog. I believe I have been dating a Narcissist for the past 4 months. He started out charming, but I have caught him in lies, and on dating sites. He is only following scantily clad women on social media and frequently likes their pics and comments on their pictures. When I brought this up to him, he projected his cheating onto me. He told me he trusts no one (from being cheated on in the past). I have investigated and found out he was having sex with another woman. When it all hit the fan he broke down in tears and begged me to stay. I am having trouble going no contact and need some encouragement. I recently caught him on another dating site. Meanwhile he calls me daily and asks me out on dates. Please help

  13. Melanie

    A friend sent me a couple of your other articles and I have continued reading more of them. This one hit me right between the eyes and speaks to what I dealt with for a year which I finally just ended. Once trust is broken and you start doing detective work, end it. Trust your gut and stop terrorizing yourself. In my case, 3 months into our relationship last February, she informs me that she is going to a concert and a Super Bowl party out of town for the weekend with a guy “friend”. I was stunned and she could see I was upset. She told me I had nothing to worry about. A week later during Valentine’s dinner, yet another guy “friend” texts her professing his admiration. I called her out on both instances a day later and she got very upset at me. Told me that by getting upset, I was pressuring her and was clearly more emotionally involved than she wanted me to be. This is after sleeping together, taking several trips together, and meeting my mom and kids over Christmas. Things ended, but we did not completely stop talking.

    We started seeing each other again two months later. It wasn’t long after, that I caught her in a lie about a family dinner one evening. I saw a car in her driveway that I discovered belonged to the guy she went to the concert with a few months earlier. A few weeks later, I saw the same car in her driveway one other evening. One night while having dinner, she became very upset over a text from this guy. He was professing his love and admiration and wanted to be more than just friends. She said she wasn’t interested in him that way, and told me a lot of unflattering things about him, saying he was gross. Claimed that his two best friends had past away and she was just helping him through a rough time.

    A few months later while on a trip, I saw her texting him from the minute we landed and continued to do so the whole week we were gone. Got upset at me for wanting to have sex during our trip. Told me two weeks later that I was doing to her what her ex husband did. I was upset because she would not get off of her phone. She got angry one time about me asking her a week ahead of time about having dinner. Said she needed to get her sister to stop nagging her to hang out and was having dinner with her. I saw her car at concert boy’s house that evening.

    All this while, the texting in front of me continued. We would watch TV or a movie, and she wouldn’t even hide her phone when he initiated contact. Again, more denials and more unflattering things said about him. We went on another trip for a week and the texting with this guy continued. She gave me her phone one afternoon while she went to the restroom without locking the screen. I watched as more messages from this guy came through. I read all of them and several others. Very flirty, mutual admiration back and forth. Broke my heart. During the trip, her phone became disabled. After coming home and getting it restored, she lost all of the data on her phone. She asked me to send concert boy a Facebook message to text her. I told her no. She asked to use my phone to do it herself. I again said no. She was finally able to send it from her phone and it was more of the same lovey, dovey stuff. She could see I was upset and I told her so. She swore from the bottom of her heart that I did not need to worry about him. A week later, I sent a text which she did not respond to for nearly 3 hours. I knew she was with him. She claimed to have been at her brother’s for dinner. I know she wasn’t there. Later that evening, guess whose car is at her house until 1am. A few weeks later out of the blue, she got very upset with me and said I was texting too much and she did not want to hang out on weekends I didn’t have my kids. I needed to make her miss me. We needed to disconnect with each other on the weekends.

    A week later, I asked her about having dinner and she said she “had” to go help concert boy go shopping for clothes. Seriously? She sent a text at 1030 saying goodnight, but I knew she wasn’t home. Her car was at his house until 1am. I watched them come out of the house and kiss for several seconds before she drove off. This is helping him shop for clothes? I was finally done at that point. We had planned a night out of town for the following weekend and I told her that trip was not happening. I told her there were now too many conditions and too much “concert boy” in our relationship. She of course denied being involved with him. Swore on her kids’ lives. At that point, I knew what I saw and knew what I knew.

  14. November of 2017 the discovery of multi conversations with women one asking for a fun day fun friend. And discovered that my husband of 13 years I cheated on me. My friend from church had noticed the way he treats me and she’s a psychiatrist and she said I want you to look up the word narcissistic and I’ll probably be a picture of his face next to that word…wow. I am still here I married to my husband we have three children and it has affected all of us. I started going to counseling and speaking to someone on a weekly basis even two of my children she has expressed to us the counselor that we all have evidence of emotional neglect. My question I statements at my friends say they will never change and your evidence of me reading your articles and listening to your videos seems to be true soundtrue to be… my question is how do you get out of a relationship like this? I have in this past year feel like I have Independence that I’m free I would, selfie full-time job.. but since getting a job he now wants me to quick …sept it will be 15 yrs of marriage and 3 kids along the way. Which is heartbreaking to think I think that maybe he has cheated all this relationship. Ask him if he has and of course he lies and I asked him did you cheat on me the four years that we were dating he says no. because you didn’t feel appreciated he felt like just the money pocket he comes home the house is a mess there’s kids arguing and fighting. He has very high expectations and our house could have been spotless and precious quiet little children and he would still find something to complain about.

  15. Thank you so much for this video. My daughter is one year on from her breakup from narcissistic fiancé. She still has away to go in her recovery but she’s getting stronger !
    She didn’t discover that he had cheated on her throughout their six year relationship, until she’d been discarded. His friends informed her that they knew about his infidelity, but kept quiet as not to upset her.
    She had been surprised when one friend asked her did she think he’d ever cheat and on another occasion she found lipstick on his shirt.
    Your video would have helped her so much at that time to recognise what truly was going on !
    Thank you again .
    Jeanette

  16. My best friend has changed has blocked me and won’t see me anymore. I still love my husband so very much. He wants me back, now I do not even know if I want him anymore. He hurt me!!!

  17. Hi, I am so shocked to see everything I read today that is relating to my husband. I just could not understand the amount of cheating habits he has and its only now that I am really really starting to realize that he has some sort of a disorder. I am really disappointed and do not even know where to start if I am to move out and start a new life. We have 4 kids including a 7 month old. We have been to therapy regarding inferdility several times, but he would continue with his habits right after therapy. Just the other day, I snapped and had a physical fight with him in front of the kids, I bit him in the face and on the shoulder, our teenage boys had to separate me from him. Three days later I see him communicating with yet another female. My God, how much hurt and pain can one take? I am a believer and pray to God for an intervention but 9 years of marriage and the pattern still continues. I read about women that stepped away from their relationships that are currently recovering, but how did they do it? In Africa, marriages are such a family affair, if I am to separate from him, the family would not even understand why as they see him “good” person. They would want to intervene to fix things, but he needs to fixing and in worse case, there might not be anything that can done! Please help me.

    1. Hi Precious,

      My heart goes out to you. What you are going through is so painful.

      Precious I understand you are up against a lot but I would love to grant you the hope that there truly is a way, regardless of limitations to honour yourself and break into the life that does honour you.

      It can be incredibly challenging but it is possible.

      I’d love you to come into my free webinar http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/freewebinar to find out deeply more about how to achieve this.

      Sending you hesling, strength and my best wishes

      Mel 🙏💕💛

  18. About 17 years ago my wife and I were basically exiled from a group of friends because she’d been messing around with one of the husbands – a man roughly 25 years older and who’d been a teacher of hers in kindergarten. Gross on both sides, I know. I didn’t find out about this until much later. She said they’d had some “long hugs” and that was it. Whatever.

    Five years later we were kicked out of another group – this was a bar band – because she slept with another member of the band – who was also married. She apologized, we went to counseling, we reconciled and even renewed our wedding vows the following year. Incidentally, to any partner fearing something is going on – trust your gut. I had a bolt of “intuition” about her affair based on nothing, basically. Just seeing them together one day after a band rehearsal, as I’d seen them a thousand times before. Nothing was going on that looked suspicious, but obviously my subconscious picked up on something – and it turned out to be correct.

    Things were good for a while, until about four years ago. She started performing with a band again, without me. I believe this sparked off her need for narcissist fuel. She began to cross lines with other men. I had another gut instinct about an older local musician she’d been singing with – again, 20+ years older – and then was sent a text by accident which proved that they were at least engaged in an emotional affair. I believe now that they may have slept together. She denied everything – it was all me, my paranoia, jealously, irrationality, etc.

    This scenario repeated itself with a string of other men: secret meetings, inappropriate texts, online flirting late at night. Last fall I caught her sexting with an older man she met through work. She admitted to sexting, but “it was nothing” and, as always, within a day or two of being “caught”, she was mostly angry at me, and was upset that I didn’t trust her.

    Also, important to note: her affair from years before was no longer “cheating”. She’d been unhappy and wanted to leave me, so that justified her behavior – in her mind. It was my fault for how unhappy she had been at the time.

    Then she moved out a month later, to work on our relationship. A couple months later I was meeting a friend at a local restaurant for a drink and she was there having dinner with the man mentioned above. Only she “wasn’t having dinner with him”…? They were sitting together, eating. But, again, it was me being jealous and irrational. In her mind she’d done absolutely nothing wrong. And why didn’t I trust her? (Yes – she did ask!)

    Beyond this “not a dinner date” issue, we spoke often at length about working on our issues and reconciling. She looked in my eyes regularly and told me how much she loved me and how committed she was to our marriage.

    Then a few weeks ago, out of the blue, she started sleeping with two other men. I won’t get into how I know, but I know. One married, the other was Mr. “not a dinner date” – what a surprise! I saw that one coming 100 miles away. I made an attempt to tell the wife of the married man. She said I was a liar (even though I gave her proof) and her husband and my wife were incredibly honest people. I know this is a point of contention for some. I would want to know, I believe she has a right to know and I would feel terrible if I didn’t at least try. Cheating is reprehensible – I feel fine about my attempt to inject some ethics in the situation.

    So everything has blown up. My wife has denied everything and I am being painted as jealous and paranoid and, for no apparent reason, I decided to besmirch my wife’s reputation with false allegations. There is no logical sense to any of it, but I have learned some important lessons related to this blog post.

    My wife is far more messed up than I ever imagined. She fits the “lying narcissist” profile to a “t”. She lies and lies and then lies some more. And yes – normal people tell the truth when caught in something bad – she is doing nothing but being angry, lying and manipulating those around her to support her side of the story.

    I guess the biggest lesson is that I made endless excuses for my wife over the years: “she’s a good person, I know that!”, “she would never do anything to hurt me!”, “she’ll come to her senses!”, “our family is so important to her, she wouldn’t do anything to hurt us!”….etc. That was me wishing and hoping and praying that all of that was true – and it wasn’t. Not a bit. She’s a pathological liar, she projects an image to the world that is totally contrary to who she is at heart, she is a serial cheater who shows no remorse, she manipulates and gaslights those around her, who she is as a person is just a web of lies.

    Twenty six years. It feels like such a waste. But we have two wonderful kids (teens) who will be devastated by our impending divorce, of course, but I will be able to dig myself out of this hole of depression and anxiety I’ve been in pretty acutely for the past four years. It will allow me to be a better father to them.

    This blog post is so true. I feel like it was written about my specific situation. Trust yourself, trust your instincts and know that you deserve better. This kind of treatment is emotional abuse and should not be tolerated. Sorry for the long post.

  19. No sneaky half-jack ejaculators, though he’d ask then tell me he was going to then make a big deal out of it.

  20. Hi Melanie

    Every word you are speaking hurts. I am in the process (everything done other than her leaving) of ending a 12 year relationship. I have been lied to about everything, cheated on, begged to forgive only to have it repeat. I truly love her and it hurts to see her cry. Every time I checked on a statement that felt wrong it was a lie. 3 weeks ago I had a call with the man she was sleeping with who had no clue obviously about me. I actually felt bad for him. Even after everything is known and papers signed, she is still professing her love for me. She is refusing to pack and refusing to leave me. On top of the lies and cheating is alcoholism right now while she should be packing she is half way through a 26 of Gin. Last night it was half bottle of wine and a 26 of Gin. No matter what she says or does it is always my fault and I will die alone and never find someone as good as she is. Now she is saying I am making her leave when she is sick and needs my help. She has told me it is not her fault and she was assaulted as a child. So now I am not only the reason for her actions but I am also unwilling to help her and responsible for what happens.

    How did I let this become my life? Why did I let this go on so long? Why do I still have feelings for her? Why won’t she just pack and leave?

    I (crazy I know) offered to pay for rehab and pay her to go and offered joint counselling after. She has told me sending her to counselling and rehab is trying to control her. All the issues are my baggage not hers and she wont go.

    So I continue to ask her to leave and she is outright telling me she wont leave me ever because she is in love with me and always will be.

    I hope to see the end of this soon, so I can start to fix the damage I have done to myself as well as get over this crazy.

  21. I had a relationship with someone who was seriously triangulating me with his wife ( who he claimed was estranged from but living in the same home) and another third woman. He text, called me, had a long conversation in which we arranged to meet the next morning. Within 30 seconds and after saying goodbye, he called me and asked me to come pick him up. I asked him why, he said his car broke down, gave a little laugh and then said I’ve just text and called the wife but don’t know where she is. He told me in the previous conversation that she was at work. I played along and asked where he was, he told me somewhere the other side of town to where he’d said he was in the previous conversation. Clearly he thought he’d called someone else hence the excuse he’d given me for not meeting that day, but not his wife who he’d said was at work and if it had been meant for the wife then why would he be saying ‘I’ve just text and called her’. There was clearly a third person, one who he’d formerly denied to me, and one who also must have had some knowledge from him that we had contact. I hadn’t told him where I was when we first spoke. Hey he managed somehow to get from one side of town to the other and text and call this third person in all under 40 seconds!!
    And if he hadn’t called the second time by mistake I’d have been none the wiser!!

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