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		By: Melanie Tonia Evans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie Tonia Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2021 03:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-1255782&quot;&gt;michelle&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Michelle,

the most powerful and best way to get training with this, is to come into the NARP Forum www.melanietoniaevans.com/forum where there is assistance and many resources about this topic.

Mel 🙏💞🦋]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-1255782">michelle</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Michelle,</p>
<p>the most powerful and best way to get training with this, is to come into the NARP Forum <a href="http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/forum" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/forum</a> where there is assistance and many resources about this topic.</p>
<p>Mel 🙏💞🦋</p>
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		By: michelle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2021 10:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greetings!
I have not been able to locate this. 
&#060;&#062;

The Goal setting module (as part of the bonus modules) does not seem to come with instructions for healing by proxy.

I have searched quite a lot, and cannot find out how to do healing by proxy.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Michelle]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings!<br />
I have not been able to locate this.<br />
&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>The Goal setting module (as part of the bonus modules) does not seem to come with instructions for healing by proxy.</p>
<p>I have searched quite a lot, and cannot find out how to do healing by proxy.<br />
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.<br />
Thank you<br />
Michelle</p>
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		By: michelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[michelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2021 10:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-548761&quot;&gt;Melanie Tonia Evans&lt;/a&gt;.

Greetings!
I have not been able to locate this. 
&#060;&#062;

The Goal setting module (as part of the bonus modules) does not seem to come with instructions for healing by proxy.

I have searched quite a lot, and cannot find out how to do healing by proxy.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Michelle]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-548761">Melanie Tonia Evans</a>.</p>
<p>Greetings!<br />
I have not been able to locate this.<br />
&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>The Goal setting module (as part of the bonus modules) does not seem to come with instructions for healing by proxy.</p>
<p>I have searched quite a lot, and cannot find out how to do healing by proxy.<br />
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.<br />
Thank you<br />
Michelle</p>
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		By: Cathy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2016 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a question about getting permission before doing QFH proxy healing.  Since most people don&#039;t know what this is, how much do you have to explain before you really have permission?  Can you give an example of how you would ask your adult child for permission?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about getting permission before doing QFH proxy healing.  Since most people don&#8217;t know what this is, how much do you have to explain before you really have permission?  Can you give an example of how you would ask your adult child for permission?</p>
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		By: Melanie Tonia Evans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie Tonia Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-580405&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Cindy,

I will do my best to de-tangle this for you!

I would do both angles. First start with your stress / fears about her - you could set up the goals &quot;I have freed up my energy from this to give space for (your daughter&#039;s name) to heal&quot;, and then release all resistance you have about this - that is your fears / pain regarding her.

Then I would use your body as proxy for her. Now then all you do with this is either Module 1 work (NARP), or set up the goals she requires, and then trust what YOUR body exposes as resistance, and really trust this - don&#039;t cognitively decipher or guess. Your body is now &quot;her body&quot; and will reveal perfectly, just as it does when you work on yourself with QFH.

Does this make it simple for you?

Mel xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-580405">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Cindy,</p>
<p>I will do my best to de-tangle this for you!</p>
<p>I would do both angles. First start with your stress / fears about her &#8211; you could set up the goals &#8220;I have freed up my energy from this to give space for (your daughter&#8217;s name) to heal&#8221;, and then release all resistance you have about this &#8211; that is your fears / pain regarding her.</p>
<p>Then I would use your body as proxy for her. Now then all you do with this is either Module 1 work (NARP), or set up the goals she requires, and then trust what YOUR body exposes as resistance, and really trust this &#8211; don&#8217;t cognitively decipher or guess. Your body is now &#8220;her body&#8221; and will reveal perfectly, just as it does when you work on yourself with QFH.</p>
<p>Does this make it simple for you?</p>
<p>Mel xo</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Melanie and Ian,

Great show!

I&#039;ve been through NARP, TFOW course, and 1/3 the way through the ES course.  I am healing very well, and am so grateful for QFH.

I got my daughter&#039;s permission and I am trying to use the Goal Setting Module to heal my daughter by proxy, but I am really confused.

What should I be basing my goals on? Should I be myself, or should I be a true proxy and literally be her. Which set from the following should I follow?:
1. Using my resistance and fears to create my goals to change myself in relation to her, knowing that my resistance and fears are what is preventing her from healing and evolving. I visualize myself and use my past experiences and past lives -- essentially healing myself, so she is more liberated to heal herself.

2. Being a true proxy for her, actually standing in for her, getting inside her, stating what she needs to be healed. I visualize her and use her past experiences and past lives -- essentially healing for her.
Thanks for your attention.
Cindy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melanie and Ian,</p>
<p>Great show!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been through NARP, TFOW course, and 1/3 the way through the ES course.  I am healing very well, and am so grateful for QFH.</p>
<p>I got my daughter&#8217;s permission and I am trying to use the Goal Setting Module to heal my daughter by proxy, but I am really confused.</p>
<p>What should I be basing my goals on? Should I be myself, or should I be a true proxy and literally be her. Which set from the following should I follow?:<br />
1. Using my resistance and fears to create my goals to change myself in relation to her, knowing that my resistance and fears are what is preventing her from healing and evolving. I visualize myself and use my past experiences and past lives &#8212; essentially healing myself, so she is more liberated to heal herself.</p>
<p>2. Being a true proxy for her, actually standing in for her, getting inside her, stating what she needs to be healed. I visualize her and use her past experiences and past lives &#8212; essentially healing for her.<br />
Thanks for your attention.<br />
Cindy</p>
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		By: Melanie Tonia Evans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie Tonia Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 04:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-548913&quot;&gt;H&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi H,

sorry it took me a little while to answer, I missed this one!

Okay ...

First of all there have been people who have worked NARP whilst still in the relationship to get the courage to leave.

What I would do, is keep working your shifts and also do shifts, on your emotions regarding him. 

So this means the pain you feel &quot;for&quot; him shift that out of your body and align with the Goal &quot;(My brother&#039;s name) is coming into his true power and truth.&quot; or something like that.

I think it is a little early to be doing healing by proxy on him - and really what you want is the opportunity for him to ask you to help him.

I this happens then you can work by proxy with him - but he has to want it.

And you can suggest NARP but certainly can&#039;t force him...

Also Gold NARP would be the best option for him so that he could have the support of Thrivers who worked NARP whilst in the relationship, have children involved etc..

You healing your &quot;perception&quot; of him will open up some space for change to start happening.

I hope this helps.

Mel xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-548913">H</a>.</p>
<p>Hi H,</p>
<p>sorry it took me a little while to answer, I missed this one!</p>
<p>Okay &#8230;</p>
<p>First of all there have been people who have worked NARP whilst still in the relationship to get the courage to leave.</p>
<p>What I would do, is keep working your shifts and also do shifts, on your emotions regarding him. </p>
<p>So this means the pain you feel &#8220;for&#8221; him shift that out of your body and align with the Goal &#8220;(My brother&#8217;s name) is coming into his true power and truth.&#8221; or something like that.</p>
<p>I think it is a little early to be doing healing by proxy on him &#8211; and really what you want is the opportunity for him to ask you to help him.</p>
<p>I this happens then you can work by proxy with him &#8211; but he has to want it.</p>
<p>And you can suggest NARP but certainly can&#8217;t force him&#8230;</p>
<p>Also Gold NARP would be the best option for him so that he could have the support of Thrivers who worked NARP whilst in the relationship, have children involved etc..</p>
<p>You healing your &#8220;perception&#8221; of him will open up some space for change to start happening.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>Mel xo</p>
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		By: H		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mel,

Is it possible to heal a sibling through proxy?

I have only recently begun the NARP journey (about 15 shifts in the past 2 weeks), and I know you mentioned you have to first be quite healed yourself in order to try to heal someone else by proxy so I understand I still have A LOT of work to do - but a sibling of mine has been suffering in a marriage to someone who, although may not necessarily be a narcissist, is emotionally abusive (extremely clingy, unsupportive, forces him to do all the work, extremely lazy and self-centered, rage outbursts, very emotionally needy, suffocating, neglects their children almost completely, etc). 

I wanted to talk to him about trying your program (he is at a very scary and very low point in his life right now - a lot of the problems he&#039;s facing right now directly and indirectly lead right back to her), but I am afraid that:

  a) he will try to heal her while healing himself and I know you mentioned that it is extremely dangerous to join your energy to someone with a personality disorder beyond repair or someone malicious. I&#039;m not sure how aware she is at her emotional abuse towards him and their kids, but she is not going to change anytime soon (this has been going on for YEARS), and it has taken its toll on him and their kids,

and 

  b) I know you mentioned how going No Contact on the person who is abusing you is key before healing, so I&#039;m not sure if him remaining in the marriage with her WHILE using NARP to heal will be effective...

Would you happen to have any advice about this situation? After experiencing the relief from starting NARP, I would LOVE for him to be able to experience for himself what I have experienced. Should he try your program or should I focus on healing myself first and then try to heal him through proxy?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mel,</p>
<p>Is it possible to heal a sibling through proxy?</p>
<p>I have only recently begun the NARP journey (about 15 shifts in the past 2 weeks), and I know you mentioned you have to first be quite healed yourself in order to try to heal someone else by proxy so I understand I still have A LOT of work to do &#8211; but a sibling of mine has been suffering in a marriage to someone who, although may not necessarily be a narcissist, is emotionally abusive (extremely clingy, unsupportive, forces him to do all the work, extremely lazy and self-centered, rage outbursts, very emotionally needy, suffocating, neglects their children almost completely, etc). </p>
<p>I wanted to talk to him about trying your program (he is at a very scary and very low point in his life right now &#8211; a lot of the problems he&#8217;s facing right now directly and indirectly lead right back to her), but I am afraid that:</p>
<p>  a) he will try to heal her while healing himself and I know you mentioned that it is extremely dangerous to join your energy to someone with a personality disorder beyond repair or someone malicious. I&#8217;m not sure how aware she is at her emotional abuse towards him and their kids, but she is not going to change anytime soon (this has been going on for YEARS), and it has taken its toll on him and their kids,</p>
<p>and </p>
<p>  b) I know you mentioned how going No Contact on the person who is abusing you is key before healing, so I&#8217;m not sure if him remaining in the marriage with her WHILE using NARP to heal will be effective&#8230;</p>
<p>Would you happen to have any advice about this situation? After experiencing the relief from starting NARP, I would LOVE for him to be able to experience for himself what I have experienced. Should he try your program or should I focus on healing myself first and then try to heal him through proxy?</p>
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		By: Melanie Tonia Evans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie Tonia Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2014 02:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-548833&quot;&gt;Clarie&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Claire,

It certainly does open up a whole new dimension in healing!

I certainly have passed on your gratitude to Ian!

You are very welcome Claire :)

Mel xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/healing-our-children-by-proxy-fathers-day-special/#comment-548833">Clarie</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Claire,</p>
<p>It certainly does open up a whole new dimension in healing!</p>
<p>I certainly have passed on your gratitude to Ian!</p>
<p>You are very welcome Claire 🙂</p>
<p>Mel xo</p>
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