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		By: Highddcx		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Protect yourself by knowing yourself and who and what you love and care about and don’t let rubbish rules, flaky people, undisclosed politics and beliefs, exes or toxic people worm their way into your key relationships, home, heart or mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Protect yourself by knowing yourself and who and what you love and care about and don’t let rubbish rules, flaky people, undisclosed politics and beliefs, exes or toxic people worm their way into your key relationships, home, heart or mind.</p>
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		By: High it x		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 00:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah the narcissists I’ve known used myself and others to compare us to each other in hurtful ways including using sex punitively to control and create suffering and giving/withholding “support” in my areas of interest. He’d be overly concerned about other males, often pathologically jealous and hung up on what he perceived they had and he didn’t. Narcs ultimately excel at wasting time, energy and resources and getting others to help them out. They get nowhere despite their delusions and will pull you there if you’re ensnared.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the narcissists I’ve known used myself and others to compare us to each other in hurtful ways including using sex punitively to control and create suffering and giving/withholding “support” in my areas of interest. He’d be overly concerned about other males, often pathologically jealous and hung up on what he perceived they had and he didn’t. Narcs ultimately excel at wasting time, energy and resources and getting others to help them out. They get nowhere despite their delusions and will pull you there if you’re ensnared.</p>
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		By: Faye		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 22:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is exactly him ….. in every way …. ✂️✂️✂️✂️✂️  Love your solitons Mel ❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly him ….. in every way …. ✂️✂️✂️✂️✂️  Love your solitons Mel ❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻</p>
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		By: Abused		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[My husband who is currently in jail has pretty much torchered me the last 3 years. He&#039;s accused me of cheating but, he would ask me if I cheated and I would say no because I didn&#039;t. Then he would get violently angry. He would choke me until I gave him the answer he wanted. He threatened to kill me when I was pregnant with our second child. But he like took me down a back road and the things he did. I thought he was going to kill me. Omg I&#039;ve never been scared someone was going to end my life. I&#039;ll never forget that. He also put a cigarette out on my face because I didn&#039;t tell him what he wanted to hear. I don&#039;t know man he was so terrifying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband who is currently in jail has pretty much torchered me the last 3 years. He&#8217;s accused me of cheating but, he would ask me if I cheated and I would say no because I didn&#8217;t. Then he would get violently angry. He would choke me until I gave him the answer he wanted. He threatened to kill me when I was pregnant with our second child. But he like took me down a back road and the things he did. I thought he was going to kill me. Omg I&#8217;ve never been scared someone was going to end my life. I&#8217;ll never forget that. He also put a cigarette out on my face because I didn&#8217;t tell him what he wanted to hear. I don&#8217;t know man he was so terrifying.</p>
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		By: Ronnie Gannon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2019 19:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/pathological-jealousy-and-narcissism-why-you-can-never-earn-their-trust/#comment-950082&quot;&gt;Melanie Tonia Evans&lt;/a&gt;.

My Narcissistic ex girlfriend and i had a  lovely dinner at a very nice restaurant one night. After returning to the car, in which i ALWAYS had to open the door for her, she punched me in the face because she thought i was flirting with the waitress. LOL!!]]></description>
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<p>My Narcissistic ex girlfriend and i had a  lovely dinner at a very nice restaurant one night. After returning to the car, in which i ALWAYS had to open the door for her, she punched me in the face because she thought i was flirting with the waitress. LOL!!</p>
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		By: Cal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over the past few weeks my ex has dumped me three times (this was the last straw). The first time he did it by asking me to move out and then without saying anything, removing me from social media. He then created a new Instagram account linked to a YouTube channel that was all about his &quot;experiences with narcissistic abuse.&quot; There were four videos in which he described details of our relationship. I only saw two but in those I saw that he completely twisted conversations that had occurred between us, claiming that I tried to call him mentally ill in order to have him question his reality. He also talked about things in those videos that he had never told me in our relationship (like an ex he was still talking to when he and I started dating). When I confronted him about the videos, he said he didn&#039;t have any intention of me seeing them. But everyone I&#039;ve talked to believes that he planted them there for me to see, so that his voice could stay in my head even if he was no longer in my life...

Regardless of what the intention was, it was a huge violation of my privacy and integrity. What&#039;s worse is that he took the liberty of &#039;diagnosing&#039; me with covert narcissism, saying that while I appeared different on the outside, I had all the &quot;same shit on the inside&quot; as his narcissistic exes. 

We tried to reconcile after that but he never really apologized for the videos or what he said, and he continued to voice his belief that I&#039;m a narcissist. We talked about trying to find a couples therapist but it never happened. Either way I think he believed that getting us into couples therapy would reveal to me &quot;who I really am.&quot; 

He told me that I&#039;m controlling and manipulative, and that the reason he was jealous and controlling was because I was provoking his jealousy-- if not deliberately then on some subconscious level. I know myself well enough to say that that wasn&#039;t my intention in any way. He considered this to be another instance of me gaslighting him. 

He couldn&#039;t stand that I had male friends, but instead of admitting to this, he said that he didn&#039;t really mind except that I threw it in his face to make him jealous. In particular he was angry because two days before his birthday I asked if he would be uncomfortable if I went to a concert with one of my classmates who happens to be a guy. He berated me on text for the next three hours, telling me things like &quot;stay the fuck away from me&quot;,&quot;I can&#039;t let the abuser be the one to help me&quot;, &quot;there&#039;s a lot of pain in your love&quot;, &quot;the part of you that tries to make me jealous is an ass&quot;, &quot;who I love needs to be fixed&quot;, &quot;you&#039;re the most dangerous person in my life&quot;, and &quot;I was fine before and after you, but now I&#039;m not the man I was.&quot; He accused me of trying to &quot;triangulate&quot; him with other males so that he would be jealous and become even more codependent on me, of &quot;grooming&quot; him by telling him I loved him too soon and being kind to him only so that he would be subordinate. He said that I was grooming my male friends so that I would have a new source of narcissistic supply lined up in case we broke up. He also claimed that I was trying to convince others that he was abusive, and that I was using his kids on social media to these ends. He said he feared that I would abandon him and take away everything that&#039;s his. That I would &quot;butter [him] up only to destroy him from the inside.&quot;

I knew he had issues with jealousy because in times past, he had questioned me a lot about my dating history and almost never went out with me anywhere. When we did, he would either notice or imagine that other guys were looking at me which pissed him off and made him question whether I enjoyed the attention. A few times he claimed he saw me checking out other guys at the gym and the pet store. I never did any of these things and it was really confusing to me because often I didn&#039;t even remember there being guys around me during those times. 

Toward the end I noticed he actually tried to gaslight me. He&#039;d make &quot;typos&quot; in his texts that would make me look twice but I didn&#039;t take the bait. When I didn&#039;t react to the typos he got annoyed, which he expressed through emojis. When I confronted him about the purpose of the emojis, he only said &quot;I don&#039;t know.&quot; 

When he broke up with me the third time, he wasn&#039;t explicit about it. He texted that he &quot;knew what was going on, it&#039;s so scary&quot; and threatened to contact the police if I tried to reach him again. He then blocked me from social media and put me in touch with one of his friends so that someone else could facilitate the move (I had moved in with him over the summer). 

He won&#039;t let me say goodbye to his kids which is really painful because I got close to them and loved them, and they were attached to me and loved me too. He said he didn&#039;t want to explain the breakup to them so chances are they&#039;ll probably think I just disappeared. 

The self criticism is like an addiction. I keep finding myself googling his Instagram handle, and I see where he comments under posts about narcissism, saying how he can relate because of me... I know I shouldn&#039;t keep looking but I guess when you miss someone you look for ways to feel like they&#039;re still with you, even if it&#039;s traumatic. 

And in spite of all of this I still love him, or at least I love the illusion of who he was before all of this came crashing down, and I don&#039;t want him to be ill or unhappy. It&#039;s hard not to believe that I caused it all despite the evidence, because it was an argument I had initiated that led to the break up. I guess I was tired of feeling like a hostage with his commitment but still, I pushed it... and I wonder if I just hadn&#039;t picked that battle, whether I would still have a family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past few weeks my ex has dumped me three times (this was the last straw). The first time he did it by asking me to move out and then without saying anything, removing me from social media. He then created a new Instagram account linked to a YouTube channel that was all about his &#8220;experiences with narcissistic abuse.&#8221; There were four videos in which he described details of our relationship. I only saw two but in those I saw that he completely twisted conversations that had occurred between us, claiming that I tried to call him mentally ill in order to have him question his reality. He also talked about things in those videos that he had never told me in our relationship (like an ex he was still talking to when he and I started dating). When I confronted him about the videos, he said he didn&#8217;t have any intention of me seeing them. But everyone I&#8217;ve talked to believes that he planted them there for me to see, so that his voice could stay in my head even if he was no longer in my life&#8230;</p>
<p>Regardless of what the intention was, it was a huge violation of my privacy and integrity. What&#8217;s worse is that he took the liberty of &#8216;diagnosing&#8217; me with covert narcissism, saying that while I appeared different on the outside, I had all the &#8220;same shit on the inside&#8221; as his narcissistic exes. </p>
<p>We tried to reconcile after that but he never really apologized for the videos or what he said, and he continued to voice his belief that I&#8217;m a narcissist. We talked about trying to find a couples therapist but it never happened. Either way I think he believed that getting us into couples therapy would reveal to me &#8220;who I really am.&#8221; </p>
<p>He told me that I&#8217;m controlling and manipulative, and that the reason he was jealous and controlling was because I was provoking his jealousy&#8211; if not deliberately then on some subconscious level. I know myself well enough to say that that wasn&#8217;t my intention in any way. He considered this to be another instance of me gaslighting him. </p>
<p>He couldn&#8217;t stand that I had male friends, but instead of admitting to this, he said that he didn&#8217;t really mind except that I threw it in his face to make him jealous. In particular he was angry because two days before his birthday I asked if he would be uncomfortable if I went to a concert with one of my classmates who happens to be a guy. He berated me on text for the next three hours, telling me things like &#8220;stay the fuck away from me&#8221;,&#8221;I can&#8217;t let the abuser be the one to help me&#8221;, &#8220;there&#8217;s a lot of pain in your love&#8221;, &#8220;the part of you that tries to make me jealous is an ass&#8221;, &#8220;who I love needs to be fixed&#8221;, &#8220;you&#8217;re the most dangerous person in my life&#8221;, and &#8220;I was fine before and after you, but now I&#8217;m not the man I was.&#8221; He accused me of trying to &#8220;triangulate&#8221; him with other males so that he would be jealous and become even more codependent on me, of &#8220;grooming&#8221; him by telling him I loved him too soon and being kind to him only so that he would be subordinate. He said that I was grooming my male friends so that I would have a new source of narcissistic supply lined up in case we broke up. He also claimed that I was trying to convince others that he was abusive, and that I was using his kids on social media to these ends. He said he feared that I would abandon him and take away everything that&#8217;s his. That I would &#8220;butter [him] up only to destroy him from the inside.&#8221;</p>
<p>I knew he had issues with jealousy because in times past, he had questioned me a lot about my dating history and almost never went out with me anywhere. When we did, he would either notice or imagine that other guys were looking at me which pissed him off and made him question whether I enjoyed the attention. A few times he claimed he saw me checking out other guys at the gym and the pet store. I never did any of these things and it was really confusing to me because often I didn&#8217;t even remember there being guys around me during those times. </p>
<p>Toward the end I noticed he actually tried to gaslight me. He&#8217;d make &#8220;typos&#8221; in his texts that would make me look twice but I didn&#8217;t take the bait. When I didn&#8217;t react to the typos he got annoyed, which he expressed through emojis. When I confronted him about the purpose of the emojis, he only said &#8220;I don&#8217;t know.&#8221; </p>
<p>When he broke up with me the third time, he wasn&#8217;t explicit about it. He texted that he &#8220;knew what was going on, it&#8217;s so scary&#8221; and threatened to contact the police if I tried to reach him again. He then blocked me from social media and put me in touch with one of his friends so that someone else could facilitate the move (I had moved in with him over the summer). </p>
<p>He won&#8217;t let me say goodbye to his kids which is really painful because I got close to them and loved them, and they were attached to me and loved me too. He said he didn&#8217;t want to explain the breakup to them so chances are they&#8217;ll probably think I just disappeared. </p>
<p>The self criticism is like an addiction. I keep finding myself googling his Instagram handle, and I see where he comments under posts about narcissism, saying how he can relate because of me&#8230; I know I shouldn&#8217;t keep looking but I guess when you miss someone you look for ways to feel like they&#8217;re still with you, even if it&#8217;s traumatic. </p>
<p>And in spite of all of this I still love him, or at least I love the illusion of who he was before all of this came crashing down, and I don&#8217;t want him to be ill or unhappy. It&#8217;s hard not to believe that I caused it all despite the evidence, because it was an argument I had initiated that led to the break up. I guess I was tired of feeling like a hostage with his commitment but still, I pushed it&#8230; and I wonder if I just hadn&#8217;t picked that battle, whether I would still have a family.</p>
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		By: Lori Judd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Melanie, I can&#039;t thank you enough for all of you insights. They have helped me to understand what has been going on my whole life with my sister. She is one year older and my mom always tried to raise us as twins. As kids my sister hated that. Now that we are in our sixties she can only see us as twins. She thinks I should be exactly as she is no exceptions. She has been so envious of my life successes with a forty year marriage, two great kids and four grandkids. She is twice divorced and chose not to have kids. She is always inserting herself in my family and behaves like she has rights to interfere because she knows what is best. I have been slowly setting boundaries that she simply does not respect. I now realize how much abuse she has heaped on me over the years because of this. I ordered your book and I can&#039;t wait to begin my healing. I am ready for a joy filled rest of my life. Thank you for creating this community. I have already shared it with friends. Much Love, Lori]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melanie, I can&#8217;t thank you enough for all of you insights. They have helped me to understand what has been going on my whole life with my sister. She is one year older and my mom always tried to raise us as twins. As kids my sister hated that. Now that we are in our sixties she can only see us as twins. She thinks I should be exactly as she is no exceptions. She has been so envious of my life successes with a forty year marriage, two great kids and four grandkids. She is twice divorced and chose not to have kids. She is always inserting herself in my family and behaves like she has rights to interfere because she knows what is best. I have been slowly setting boundaries that she simply does not respect. I now realize how much abuse she has heaped on me over the years because of this. I ordered your book and I can&#8217;t wait to begin my healing. I am ready for a joy filled rest of my life. Thank you for creating this community. I have already shared it with friends. Much Love, Lori</p>
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		By: Melanie Tonia Evans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2018 03:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/pathological-jealousy-and-narcissism-why-you-can-never-earn-their-trust/#comment-1095916&quot;&gt;Ali&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ali,

I am so pleased this helped.

Ali the truth is if someone is insecure and can’t be appeased they have issues and need to address them honestly if there is any hope of a true healthy relationship with them.

If they are not even beginning to have compassion for the person they inflict the behaviour onto and are not willing to do deep healing work on their triggers, then this person will remain unconscious and therefore things aren’t going to improve.

This is really the issue. I don’t unfortunately, with such a large global community, do consultations just for ‘chats’. I only do them as hour long healing sessions, if you would like to find out more about these you can email support@melanietoniaevans.com

I hope this helps.

Mel 🙏💕❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/pathological-jealousy-and-narcissism-why-you-can-never-earn-their-trust/#comment-1095916">Ali</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ali,</p>
<p>I am so pleased this helped.</p>
<p>Ali the truth is if someone is insecure and can’t be appeased they have issues and need to address them honestly if there is any hope of a true healthy relationship with them.</p>
<p>If they are not even beginning to have compassion for the person they inflict the behaviour onto and are not willing to do deep healing work on their triggers, then this person will remain unconscious and therefore things aren’t going to improve.</p>
<p>This is really the issue. I don’t unfortunately, with such a large global community, do consultations just for ‘chats’. I only do them as hour long healing sessions, if you would like to find out more about these you can email <a href="mailto:support@melanietoniaevans.com">support@melanietoniaevans.com</a></p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>Mel 🙏💕❤️</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2018 20:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Melanie. Your video is amazing. I was with someone for 3+ years and became engaged in March. Just a month ago, I ended the engagement because of behavior I encountered which I believe is pathological jealousy. There have been over a dozen of these behaviors in the past, for example being falsely accused of staring at women when I wasn’t and being questioned over the silliest of things. I finally had enough and ended it.

I wanted to know if it’s possible to speak to you by phone and you charge $ for a consultation? I just wanted to get further confirmation that she indeed was pathologically jealous.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melanie. Your video is amazing. I was with someone for 3+ years and became engaged in March. Just a month ago, I ended the engagement because of behavior I encountered which I believe is pathological jealousy. There have been over a dozen of these behaviors in the past, for example being falsely accused of staring at women when I wasn’t and being questioned over the silliest of things. I finally had enough and ended it.</p>
<p>I wanted to know if it’s possible to speak to you by phone and you charge $ for a consultation? I just wanted to get further confirmation that she indeed was pathologically jealous.</p>
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