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		By: Christina Davison		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just read this entry about narcissists and Xmas and it is almost a play by play of what happen to me this holiday season. My NDP boyfriend of FOUR years dumped me on my ARSE the day after Christmas while on holiday with my children! He was behaving so strangely from the very start of the vaca and it almost seemed as if he was possessed. Having been shamed and guilted on many previous holidays, I made a herculean effort to buy him the most lavish, personal and expensive gifts that I could find. He in turn not only gave me garbage (as opposed to the high priced ticket items that he poured on my during the love bombing stage), but he gave me a bracelet that would fit a very large man&#039;s wrist and my wrist is the size of a 5 year old. When he opened his presents he seemed to be quietly seething with resentment. It was so strange and confusing, but the real fun began when he started raging at me out of nowhere, calling me THOUGHTLESS, SELFISH, LAZY etc. etc. I was horrified and confused. He then literally packed my suitcase and told me to return home with my children and that was the last time we spoke. A week before this incident he told me, as he had many times before, that I was the love of his life, this was forever, blah, blah. Within 5 days, during which nothing unusual happened or any concerns were raised, I became this horrible, unworthy person that needed to be discarded ASAP. It&#039;s so insane and painful. Thank you Melanie for all the insight you have shed on this insidious disorder and the victims that endure it, willingly I might add. I am not at the point that I can say that I&#039;m not in constant pain and agony, but thanks to you, I have the knowledge to understand why and I am determine to fight my way out of this with some soul work and self love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read this entry about narcissists and Xmas and it is almost a play by play of what happen to me this holiday season. My NDP boyfriend of FOUR years dumped me on my ARSE the day after Christmas while on holiday with my children! He was behaving so strangely from the very start of the vaca and it almost seemed as if he was possessed. Having been shamed and guilted on many previous holidays, I made a herculean effort to buy him the most lavish, personal and expensive gifts that I could find. He in turn not only gave me garbage (as opposed to the high priced ticket items that he poured on my during the love bombing stage), but he gave me a bracelet that would fit a very large man&#8217;s wrist and my wrist is the size of a 5 year old. When he opened his presents he seemed to be quietly seething with resentment. It was so strange and confusing, but the real fun began when he started raging at me out of nowhere, calling me THOUGHTLESS, SELFISH, LAZY etc. etc. I was horrified and confused. He then literally packed my suitcase and told me to return home with my children and that was the last time we spoke. A week before this incident he told me, as he had many times before, that I was the love of his life, this was forever, blah, blah. Within 5 days, during which nothing unusual happened or any concerns were raised, I became this horrible, unworthy person that needed to be discarded ASAP. It&#8217;s so insane and painful. Thank you Melanie for all the insight you have shed on this insidious disorder and the victims that endure it, willingly I might add. I am not at the point that I can say that I&#8217;m not in constant pain and agony, but thanks to you, I have the knowledge to understand why and I am determine to fight my way out of this with some soul work and self love.</p>
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		By: Melanie Tonia Evans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie Tonia Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1126298&quot;&gt;Louise Bailey&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Louise,

Greater than your beliefs, truth and very noble and beautiful mission is Quantum Law.

If it’s a remaining trauma regarding people ‘not seeing’ your efforts will create more of ‘not seeing’, regardless of whether you are dealing with an N or a ‘normal’ person.

If you see people as ‘violent’ and ‘selfish’ and they feel shamed and blamed by you, they will shy away.

Regardless of my beliefs and orientations you don’t need me or any specific person to agree or comply for you to live and inspire the beautiful changes and future you see, and the change your are being to generate that change.

What is ‘missing’ stays missing. What is deemed ‘tragic’ remains a tragedy. At soul level we are all - including animals - with God, hone and Oneness. Can you see the unconscious game here unfolding from where it was to where it can go, without it having to be so painful?

Every soul is immortal and eternal.

You releasing exactly the charges you are feeling (as you have stated) with NARP will grant you that relief and wisdom, and vitally your alignment making your mission and dharma so much more effective.

I wish you blessings and send my love.

Mel 🙏💕❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1126298">Louise Bailey</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Louise,</p>
<p>Greater than your beliefs, truth and very noble and beautiful mission is Quantum Law.</p>
<p>If it’s a remaining trauma regarding people ‘not seeing’ your efforts will create more of ‘not seeing’, regardless of whether you are dealing with an N or a ‘normal’ person.</p>
<p>If you see people as ‘violent’ and ‘selfish’ and they feel shamed and blamed by you, they will shy away.</p>
<p>Regardless of my beliefs and orientations you don’t need me or any specific person to agree or comply for you to live and inspire the beautiful changes and future you see, and the change your are being to generate that change.</p>
<p>What is ‘missing’ stays missing. What is deemed ‘tragic’ remains a tragedy. At soul level we are all &#8211; including animals &#8211; with God, hone and Oneness. Can you see the unconscious game here unfolding from where it was to where it can go, without it having to be so painful?</p>
<p>Every soul is immortal and eternal.</p>
<p>You releasing exactly the charges you are feeling (as you have stated) with NARP will grant you that relief and wisdom, and vitally your alignment making your mission and dharma so much more effective.</p>
<p>I wish you blessings and send my love.</p>
<p>Mel 🙏💕❤️</p>
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		By: Louise Bailey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1126083&quot;&gt;Melanie Tonia Evans&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Melanie, 

I’m going to respond to your comment by acknowledging what you say, acknowledging my own behaviour and responding fully and consciously taking responsibility for any harm or moral wrong I caused. 

When it comes to beliefs and opinions, I agree, its not my right to try to force my opinions onto you if they differ to your own.  But to express my opinions in an open forum, I commit no spiritual wrong.

When it comes to violence, the torture and murder of the innocent and defenceless, its actually everyone capable&#039;s moral and spiritual duty not only to not participate in that violence but to speak out about it and do all we can to stop it. 

The trillion tortured animals every year, the desecrated Earth and starving people…are not caused by righteous anger….they are caused by the actions of people who don’t care and are selfish enough to actually deny their victims suffering entirely and feel entitled to inflict it onto them. 

There’s a great book by Will Tuttle called The World Peace Diet where he points out that the dominant violent oppression of other species for the pleasures of our palate, is a mindset of violence, which leads to the pyramid structure of ‘power over’ dominance and the systems of violence that we see in the world today.  If we live ruthlessly and violently to other species then those who rise to the top in this cultural mindset of violence, are those who are most ruthless and most violent.  If we all lived non violently, if we honoured and cared for all life, harming no-one, in a vegan world, those who were most loving and non violent would rise to the top and become our leaders.  So when you do the research you can see that actually it’s the daily violence to other species that is causing all the violent oppression in the world. Not my or anyone else’s agonised feelings about that, their understandable righteous anger and desperate pleas for mercy on their victims behalf.

We are all one Melanie, on a quantum level, as you know.  When doing the NARP program I’ve done healings where I feel the wound is ancient, I’ve felt as though I’ve actually been someone who was trapped, imprisoned by a terrifying and violent persecutor, who tortured me and brutally killed me.  I could have been one of those animals in a past life and so could anyone else who later, in this life, has had to do deep healing to release the trauma of that. 

Truly, we should do unto others as we would wish to have done to ourselves, because we are actually doing that to ourselves. Would you put yourself in one of the prison and torture camps these animals are languishing in right now? Would you want to stand in line waiting in terror for your turn, as you hear the screams of those up ahead being brutally violently killed? 

I wonder if you could do this for the animals, the starving people and the dying earth.  Could you go inwards, go to Source, to God, to Love…and ask Source what you would do if you were acting from Source and Love?  Would you pay for animals to be tortured for the pleasures of your palate, knowing you were forcing your fellow humans to starve and destroying the world, or would you choose from the vast array of delicious vegan alternatives and avoid harming anyone? 

For every one person who goes vegan, approximately 100 animals, every year, will be spared.  Every vegan usually inspires at least one other person to go vegan.  Someone in your position, all spiritual teachers and role models, by going vegan, could inspire so many others to.  Just do the math on that, a hundred animals a year, every year for the rest of your life and every person you inspired to go vegan’s life would be spared.  And obviously, the knock on effect would just keep exponentially growing till this truly was a world of love, non violence and peace. 

So much suffering could be ended, by a simple act of choosing to eat from the enormous delicious range of vegan alternatives.

There are delicious vegan chocolate cakes too.  In fact every single one of your favorite foods can be made a vegan version.  You don’t even have to miss out!  All that’s required is genuine empathy, living by conscience and making the small initial effort of learning to cook vegan.  

You cannot ingest torture and suffering, death and destruction and be Love at the same time.  Love is not violent.  Love does not intentionally harm others.  Love is kind.

But I will stop the lecturing, prescribing and logically explaining it to you a thousand times right here. 

And end, with a prayer, for mercy love and compassion for the animals, the starving people and dying earth, to be born in your heart and expressed through your actions. 

When I go inwards to my sacred place, it’s a vegan world.  It’s a world where no human living in that dimension, on that planet, would intentionally harm any other living being, and we all live in service to the animals. When I spiral up out of me the traumatic experience of living on this planet full of abuse, I imagine spiralling up out of me this whole terrible world. I’m hoping that as I cannot physically stop non vegans in this nightmare, I can imagine this world just disappearing, and maybe, if I’m creating my reality, it will. 

Whether through humans going vegan and healing this world, or through the environmental doom certain within decades, or the terrible future the elite have in mind for most humans, if they don’t…this whole nightmare is going to end soon enough anyway. 

I will hold for you and all non vegans in my visualisations and imagination, the emotional set point, that you choose the path that is most in line with conscience, love and truth.  It’s the best…it’s the only thing I can do.  


Louise

PS. I just noticed that I’m feeling exactly the way I did when I was trying to get the narcissist to stop hurting me. I’ve been feeling so calm and well lately, since disconnecting from the narcissist and using the NARP program to heal.  Yet suddenly I notice I’m back feeling the way I did when I was trying to get through to the narcissist. Its traumatizing to ask someone to consider an abuse, especially a cruelty like torture and murder of over a trillion animals and the destruction of all life on Earth… and have them completely deny it and even shift the blame onto me for bringing the abuse up. I suddenly notice I’m starving and haven’t eaten today yet as I’m caught up in trying to get through to you in my response. I feel ungrounded, wonder if I’ll get to yoga later.  In this state I remember well, I can forget to tend to my needs or the daily chores of life, that led to not being able to work, to think straight, even to being ill. Whether I’m trying to stop someone abusing me, or abusing animals... its all the same…because we are all one.  But now…what an amazing thing that I have the self awareness to realise I’ve lost my grounded calm, am acting from a traumatised place and to have the wisdom now to stop engaging pointlessly and use the tool I now have to go inwards, connect to Source and Love and release the trauma. Thank you!

Its still my responsibility as a conscious person acting from conscience on this planet, to be the voice of victims of violence and injustice, to speak out every way I can.  But something I won’t ever do now is to keep desperately trying to get someone to see, its only traumatizing to me and I will never ever get through to someone who is completely denying reality and the abuse they are engaged in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1126083">Melanie Tonia Evans</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Melanie, </p>
<p>I’m going to respond to your comment by acknowledging what you say, acknowledging my own behaviour and responding fully and consciously taking responsibility for any harm or moral wrong I caused. </p>
<p>When it comes to beliefs and opinions, I agree, its not my right to try to force my opinions onto you if they differ to your own.  But to express my opinions in an open forum, I commit no spiritual wrong.</p>
<p>When it comes to violence, the torture and murder of the innocent and defenceless, its actually everyone capable&#8217;s moral and spiritual duty not only to not participate in that violence but to speak out about it and do all we can to stop it. </p>
<p>The trillion tortured animals every year, the desecrated Earth and starving people…are not caused by righteous anger….they are caused by the actions of people who don’t care and are selfish enough to actually deny their victims suffering entirely and feel entitled to inflict it onto them. </p>
<p>There’s a great book by Will Tuttle called The World Peace Diet where he points out that the dominant violent oppression of other species for the pleasures of our palate, is a mindset of violence, which leads to the pyramid structure of ‘power over’ dominance and the systems of violence that we see in the world today.  If we live ruthlessly and violently to other species then those who rise to the top in this cultural mindset of violence, are those who are most ruthless and most violent.  If we all lived non violently, if we honoured and cared for all life, harming no-one, in a vegan world, those who were most loving and non violent would rise to the top and become our leaders.  So when you do the research you can see that actually it’s the daily violence to other species that is causing all the violent oppression in the world. Not my or anyone else’s agonised feelings about that, their understandable righteous anger and desperate pleas for mercy on their victims behalf.</p>
<p>We are all one Melanie, on a quantum level, as you know.  When doing the NARP program I’ve done healings where I feel the wound is ancient, I’ve felt as though I’ve actually been someone who was trapped, imprisoned by a terrifying and violent persecutor, who tortured me and brutally killed me.  I could have been one of those animals in a past life and so could anyone else who later, in this life, has had to do deep healing to release the trauma of that. </p>
<p>Truly, we should do unto others as we would wish to have done to ourselves, because we are actually doing that to ourselves. Would you put yourself in one of the prison and torture camps these animals are languishing in right now? Would you want to stand in line waiting in terror for your turn, as you hear the screams of those up ahead being brutally violently killed? </p>
<p>I wonder if you could do this for the animals, the starving people and the dying earth.  Could you go inwards, go to Source, to God, to Love…and ask Source what you would do if you were acting from Source and Love?  Would you pay for animals to be tortured for the pleasures of your palate, knowing you were forcing your fellow humans to starve and destroying the world, or would you choose from the vast array of delicious vegan alternatives and avoid harming anyone? </p>
<p>For every one person who goes vegan, approximately 100 animals, every year, will be spared.  Every vegan usually inspires at least one other person to go vegan.  Someone in your position, all spiritual teachers and role models, by going vegan, could inspire so many others to.  Just do the math on that, a hundred animals a year, every year for the rest of your life and every person you inspired to go vegan’s life would be spared.  And obviously, the knock on effect would just keep exponentially growing till this truly was a world of love, non violence and peace. </p>
<p>So much suffering could be ended, by a simple act of choosing to eat from the enormous delicious range of vegan alternatives.</p>
<p>There are delicious vegan chocolate cakes too.  In fact every single one of your favorite foods can be made a vegan version.  You don’t even have to miss out!  All that’s required is genuine empathy, living by conscience and making the small initial effort of learning to cook vegan.  </p>
<p>You cannot ingest torture and suffering, death and destruction and be Love at the same time.  Love is not violent.  Love does not intentionally harm others.  Love is kind.</p>
<p>But I will stop the lecturing, prescribing and logically explaining it to you a thousand times right here. </p>
<p>And end, with a prayer, for mercy love and compassion for the animals, the starving people and dying earth, to be born in your heart and expressed through your actions. </p>
<p>When I go inwards to my sacred place, it’s a vegan world.  It’s a world where no human living in that dimension, on that planet, would intentionally harm any other living being, and we all live in service to the animals. When I spiral up out of me the traumatic experience of living on this planet full of abuse, I imagine spiralling up out of me this whole terrible world. I’m hoping that as I cannot physically stop non vegans in this nightmare, I can imagine this world just disappearing, and maybe, if I’m creating my reality, it will. </p>
<p>Whether through humans going vegan and healing this world, or through the environmental doom certain within decades, or the terrible future the elite have in mind for most humans, if they don’t…this whole nightmare is going to end soon enough anyway. </p>
<p>I will hold for you and all non vegans in my visualisations and imagination, the emotional set point, that you choose the path that is most in line with conscience, love and truth.  It’s the best…it’s the only thing I can do.  </p>
<p>Louise</p>
<p>PS. I just noticed that I’m feeling exactly the way I did when I was trying to get the narcissist to stop hurting me. I’ve been feeling so calm and well lately, since disconnecting from the narcissist and using the NARP program to heal.  Yet suddenly I notice I’m back feeling the way I did when I was trying to get through to the narcissist. Its traumatizing to ask someone to consider an abuse, especially a cruelty like torture and murder of over a trillion animals and the destruction of all life on Earth… and have them completely deny it and even shift the blame onto me for bringing the abuse up. I suddenly notice I’m starving and haven’t eaten today yet as I’m caught up in trying to get through to you in my response. I feel ungrounded, wonder if I’ll get to yoga later.  In this state I remember well, I can forget to tend to my needs or the daily chores of life, that led to not being able to work, to think straight, even to being ill. Whether I’m trying to stop someone abusing me, or abusing animals&#8230; its all the same…because we are all one.  But now…what an amazing thing that I have the self awareness to realise I’ve lost my grounded calm, am acting from a traumatised place and to have the wisdom now to stop engaging pointlessly and use the tool I now have to go inwards, connect to Source and Love and release the trauma. Thank you!</p>
<p>Its still my responsibility as a conscious person acting from conscience on this planet, to be the voice of victims of violence and injustice, to speak out every way I can.  But something I won’t ever do now is to keep desperately trying to get someone to see, its only traumatizing to me and I will never ever get through to someone who is completely denying reality and the abuse they are engaged in.</p>
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		By: Melanie Tonia Evans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melanie Tonia Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 01:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1125935&quot;&gt;Louise Bailey&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Louise,

I’m so glad my resources have been to help you heal from narcissistic abuse.

Louise if I can be frank with you - none of us have any power to change peoples views or ways in order for us to feel better within ourselves.

And we actually have no spiritual right to.

This is not unconditional love and it’s distinctly ‘wrong town’.

This would be like me jumping on abuse forums and telling people how ‘wrong’ their victimisation views are!

Have a look at the state of the world. because of different values and beliefs and trying to force others to comply. Different religions and races have
murdered each other over such things.

All in the name of righteousness.

With our strong personal beliefs our only power is to guide those who come to us with the openness to align with our beliefs and to leave those alone, unconditionally loving people to allow them to be whoever they choose to be - if they don’t.

The more we try to force people to do something to make us happy, the more their soul resists and they push back, and we truly energise that which we fight against.

My suggestion to you is focus on Being your truth inspiring others who wish to be inspired by you.

Mel 🙏💕❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1125935">Louise Bailey</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Louise,</p>
<p>I’m so glad my resources have been to help you heal from narcissistic abuse.</p>
<p>Louise if I can be frank with you &#8211; none of us have any power to change peoples views or ways in order for us to feel better within ourselves.</p>
<p>And we actually have no spiritual right to.</p>
<p>This is not unconditional love and it’s distinctly ‘wrong town’.</p>
<p>This would be like me jumping on abuse forums and telling people how ‘wrong’ their victimisation views are!</p>
<p>Have a look at the state of the world. because of different values and beliefs and trying to force others to comply. Different religions and races have<br />
murdered each other over such things.</p>
<p>All in the name of righteousness.</p>
<p>With our strong personal beliefs our only power is to guide those who come to us with the openness to align with our beliefs and to leave those alone, unconditionally loving people to allow them to be whoever they choose to be &#8211; if they don’t.</p>
<p>The more we try to force people to do something to make us happy, the more their soul resists and they push back, and we truly energise that which we fight against.</p>
<p>My suggestion to you is focus on Being your truth inspiring others who wish to be inspired by you.</p>
<p>Mel 🙏💕❤️</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louise Bailey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Melanie and the thriver community!  

I have a question I&#039;ve been wanting to put to you Melanie and to hear feedback from the community, for some time.  it finally formulated today and so I&#039;m going to post it here below your latest video, even though its not directly related to the video subject matter, its pertinent to put it to the community at Christmas time.  I wrote this letter containing the question, earlier today;

Dear Melanie,

I’m working through the NARP program and am so grateful to you for the liberation from the narcissist and myself that its bringing me. I truly wouldn’t have survived the experience without your work. 

As a vegan and animal rights activist this new understanding of narcissism has also been helpful, because its given me a language to describe the response I get from non vegans when I try to get them to be accountable for the suffering and violence they cause…and perhaps a way to understand why they are the way they are. As an activist I have spoken over the years online and off to thousands of people and either they accept responsibility for their behaviour and stop harming animals or they respond in the exact ways you describe a narcissist does when we try to get them to take responsibility and be accountable... entitled, grandiose, deny, defend, rationalise, justify, twist things, won’t stay on topic, take no responsibility, no accountability and show no empathy for their victims. It’s a cultural narcissism towards other species.  

We were born into this, we didn’t know, but we all know now that we are herbivorous in our physiology and thrive on a vegan diet, top body builders and athletes testify to this, people who cure themselves of terminal illnesses by just going vegan, all kinds of sickness, about 80 percent of it could be cured with a mainly raw vegan diet.  We know now that animals are tortured horrifically in the meat dairy and egg industry.  We have had put to us the ethical question… ‘Should we take away the freedom and rights of any other living being, enslave, rape, mutilate, steal their babies, then brutally kill them?’  When they experience that as any beloved cat or dog would, as any human child would.  We know now the suffering we cause by not being vegan and that a billion of our fellow humans are starving as a direct result of the meat dairy and egg industries, the planet being destroyed by those industries. 

Responding to this information as a healthy whole conscious person, responsible for our actions…wouldn&#039;t we go vegan?  But almost all people in response to this information act entitled, grandiose, they defend, deny, rationalise and justify their behaviour and act &#039;&#039;like angry five year olds in an an adults body.&#039;&#039;  That’s when it hit me this is cultural narcissism!  As I worked through my own healing process regarding the narcissist I just became toxically enmeshed with.  As you said those words ‘its like trying to get an angry five year old in an adults body to see sense’...it hit me…this…is exactly…what its like as an activist trying to get non vegans to be accountable and responsible and stop hurting animals!  So I realise I&#039;ve been playing out my personal wounds on the macrocosm too.  On behalf of the animals, as their voice, on the macrocosm I&#039;ve felt persecuted, helpless, unseen, unheard, trapped, terrified, felt and am unable to escape...as an activist I&#039;ve felt unseen, unheard, and desperately fighting for justice and accountability where there just isn&#039;t any. 

You say often that we are doing this work to liberate ourselves from patterns of being abused for ‘future generations’, but there aren’t going to be any future generations if we don’t go vegan because of the catastrophic damage the meat dairy and egg industries are doing to the planet.  I personally think its too late environmentally anyway and we are almost certainly doomed on this planet fairly shortly.  But if we want life on Earth to survive for future generations we would, if our actions were in accordance with our sincere intentions, go vegan. 

I just read through this and thought…I’m doing what one does with narcissists, lecturing, prescribing …desperately trying to get them to see.  I know now that doesn’t work.  

Should I just give up then?  Is it as pointless and futile to get the 98 percent of humans still engaged in narcissistic violent abuse of other species to take responsibility for themselves, be accountable, stop hurting their victims?  Maybe it is.  Maybe the cultural narcissistic abuse of other species, is as impossible to change, as it is trying to change the narcissists we meet on a personal level. 

I&#039;d appreciate compassionate and empathic feedback and response from anyone in the community, but please, please...if all you want to do is respond with defending, denying, rationalising, justifying, showing no empathy for animals or the starving people and dying earth, if you feel entitled to harm other living beings for the pleasures of your palate...if you only have narcissistic responses to offer...please...I&#039;ve heard enough. If you must make such comments I&#039;m afraid I won&#039;t any longer respond to them.  That&#039;s what Ive learnt regarding trying to convince someone not to harm others who is intent on harming them, there&#039;s no point arguing. 

But I&#039;d be delighted to respond to and engage with anyone who can speak from their hearts and their conscience with compassion for animals, the starving people and dying earth.

Louise]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Melanie and the thriver community!  </p>
<p>I have a question I&#8217;ve been wanting to put to you Melanie and to hear feedback from the community, for some time.  it finally formulated today and so I&#8217;m going to post it here below your latest video, even though its not directly related to the video subject matter, its pertinent to put it to the community at Christmas time.  I wrote this letter containing the question, earlier today;</p>
<p>Dear Melanie,</p>
<p>I’m working through the NARP program and am so grateful to you for the liberation from the narcissist and myself that its bringing me. I truly wouldn’t have survived the experience without your work. </p>
<p>As a vegan and animal rights activist this new understanding of narcissism has also been helpful, because its given me a language to describe the response I get from non vegans when I try to get them to be accountable for the suffering and violence they cause…and perhaps a way to understand why they are the way they are. As an activist I have spoken over the years online and off to thousands of people and either they accept responsibility for their behaviour and stop harming animals or they respond in the exact ways you describe a narcissist does when we try to get them to take responsibility and be accountable&#8230; entitled, grandiose, deny, defend, rationalise, justify, twist things, won’t stay on topic, take no responsibility, no accountability and show no empathy for their victims. It’s a cultural narcissism towards other species.  </p>
<p>We were born into this, we didn’t know, but we all know now that we are herbivorous in our physiology and thrive on a vegan diet, top body builders and athletes testify to this, people who cure themselves of terminal illnesses by just going vegan, all kinds of sickness, about 80 percent of it could be cured with a mainly raw vegan diet.  We know now that animals are tortured horrifically in the meat dairy and egg industry.  We have had put to us the ethical question… ‘Should we take away the freedom and rights of any other living being, enslave, rape, mutilate, steal their babies, then brutally kill them?’  When they experience that as any beloved cat or dog would, as any human child would.  We know now the suffering we cause by not being vegan and that a billion of our fellow humans are starving as a direct result of the meat dairy and egg industries, the planet being destroyed by those industries. </p>
<p>Responding to this information as a healthy whole conscious person, responsible for our actions…wouldn&#8217;t we go vegan?  But almost all people in response to this information act entitled, grandiose, they defend, deny, rationalise and justify their behaviour and act &#8221;like angry five year olds in an an adults body.&#8221;  That’s when it hit me this is cultural narcissism!  As I worked through my own healing process regarding the narcissist I just became toxically enmeshed with.  As you said those words ‘its like trying to get an angry five year old in an adults body to see sense’&#8230;it hit me…this…is exactly…what its like as an activist trying to get non vegans to be accountable and responsible and stop hurting animals!  So I realise I&#8217;ve been playing out my personal wounds on the macrocosm too.  On behalf of the animals, as their voice, on the macrocosm I&#8217;ve felt persecuted, helpless, unseen, unheard, trapped, terrified, felt and am unable to escape&#8230;as an activist I&#8217;ve felt unseen, unheard, and desperately fighting for justice and accountability where there just isn&#8217;t any. </p>
<p>You say often that we are doing this work to liberate ourselves from patterns of being abused for ‘future generations’, but there aren’t going to be any future generations if we don’t go vegan because of the catastrophic damage the meat dairy and egg industries are doing to the planet.  I personally think its too late environmentally anyway and we are almost certainly doomed on this planet fairly shortly.  But if we want life on Earth to survive for future generations we would, if our actions were in accordance with our sincere intentions, go vegan. </p>
<p>I just read through this and thought…I’m doing what one does with narcissists, lecturing, prescribing …desperately trying to get them to see.  I know now that doesn’t work.  </p>
<p>Should I just give up then?  Is it as pointless and futile to get the 98 percent of humans still engaged in narcissistic violent abuse of other species to take responsibility for themselves, be accountable, stop hurting their victims?  Maybe it is.  Maybe the cultural narcissistic abuse of other species, is as impossible to change, as it is trying to change the narcissists we meet on a personal level. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d appreciate compassionate and empathic feedback and response from anyone in the community, but please, please&#8230;if all you want to do is respond with defending, denying, rationalising, justifying, showing no empathy for animals or the starving people and dying earth, if you feel entitled to harm other living beings for the pleasures of your palate&#8230;if you only have narcissistic responses to offer&#8230;please&#8230;I&#8217;ve heard enough. If you must make such comments I&#8217;m afraid I won&#8217;t any longer respond to them.  That&#8217;s what Ive learnt regarding trying to convince someone not to harm others who is intent on harming them, there&#8217;s no point arguing. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;d be delighted to respond to and engage with anyone who can speak from their hearts and their conscience with compassion for animals, the starving people and dying earth.</p>
<p>Louise</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2019 07:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1124459&quot;&gt;Sarah&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Sarah,

Have you tried Quanta Freedom Healing yet? If not I’d love you to come into my free webinar www.melanietoniaevans.com/freewebinar so that I can take you through how I and many other people in this community have achieved this.

Mel 🙏💕❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1124459">Sarah</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Sarah,</p>
<p>Have you tried Quanta Freedom Healing yet? If not I’d love you to come into my free webinar <a href="http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/freewebinar" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/freewebinar</a> so that I can take you through how I and many other people in this community have achieved this.</p>
<p>Mel 🙏💕❤️</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2019 03:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your words are so inspiring, so thank you for that. What I am having trouble with is finding the inner trauma and releasing it. I am reading EVERYTHING and watching videos and taking courses and I can&#039;t seem to feel that release that you speak of. What&#039;s wrong with me?? I want to get rid of it, feel joy, happiness and abundance, but can&#039;t seem to figure out how to reach it and release it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your words are so inspiring, so thank you for that. What I am having trouble with is finding the inner trauma and releasing it. I am reading EVERYTHING and watching videos and taking courses and I can&#8217;t seem to feel that release that you speak of. What&#8217;s wrong with me?? I want to get rid of it, feel joy, happiness and abundance, but can&#8217;t seem to figure out how to reach it and release it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2019 22:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1124359&quot;&gt;Drew Curran&lt;/a&gt;.


Hi Drew,

First of all I really want you to know, the very fact you are even facing and questioning being a narcissist, and seeking inner healing and being vulnerable about how you truly feel 100 percent makes you not a narcissist.

This explains more about this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aa75ynfu4WI

In high states of trauma it can be difficult to get the thinking cognitive - which is highly energised - out of the way to get inner healing done.

The support/ coaching you require with this Drew, doesn’t happen on the blog, it takes place in the NARP Members Forum which is where you need to be right now.

www.melanietoniaevans.com/member 

If you have any trouble connecting there please email support@melanietoniaevans.com

I hope this helps.

Mel 🙏💕❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.melanietoniaevans.com/the-best-way-to-stop-feeding-the-narcissist-energy-at-christmas/#comment-1124359">Drew Curran</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Drew,</p>
<p>First of all I really want you to know, the very fact you are even facing and questioning being a narcissist, and seeking inner healing and being vulnerable about how you truly feel 100 percent makes you not a narcissist.</p>
<p>This explains more about this <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aa75ynfu4WI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aa75ynfu4WI</a></p>
<p>In high states of trauma it can be difficult to get the thinking cognitive &#8211; which is highly energised &#8211; out of the way to get inner healing done.</p>
<p>The support/ coaching you require with this Drew, doesn’t happen on the blog, it takes place in the NARP Members Forum which is where you need to be right now.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/member" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/member</a> </p>
<p>If you have any trouble connecting there please email <a href="mailto:support@melanietoniaevans.com">support@melanietoniaevans.com</a></p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>Mel 🙏💕❤️</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2019 22:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mel,

My heart goes out to you. What you have been through is so painful, and you are right - it’s only you who can stop the pattern of abuse you have been suffering.

Sending you clarity, strength, healing and breakthrough.

Mel 🙏💕❤️]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mel,</p>
<p>My heart goes out to you. What you have been through is so painful, and you are right &#8211; it’s only you who can stop the pattern of abuse you have been suffering.</p>
<p>Sending you clarity, strength, healing and breakthrough.</p>
<p>Mel 🙏💕❤️</p>
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