I’ve always said that going No Contact with a narcissist is probably one of the toughest obstacles you will face when ending the toxic relationship.
And sticking with it is the biggest step you will take to heal from narcissistic abuse.
By getting it right as soon as possible, you will avoid weeks, months, years, or even decades of a delayed or non-existent recovery.
Many of us break No Contact – we go back again and again so these lessons are very important.
Today’s video will prepare you for this inevitable step and each of these six approaches will give you insight on how to move away from the toxic relationship so you can open yourself up to a new world of self and life that no longer resembles abuse, devastation, loss, and heartache.
Video Transcript
Today I want to talk to you about the six best things that you can prepare to go No Contact with a narcissist. I promise you that when you try to go No Contact, you’ll find it is one of the toughest things you are ever going to go through with narcissistic abuse.
So many of us continually break No Contact, but the great news is that when you know how to do No Contact the Thriver way, as a boundary beast, you will get through this in the most direct and painless way.
Before I get started, I just want to quickly remind you that my 10-week healing intense Bootcamp called Thrive –where you can go from zero to hero, from absolute pain and powerless and struggle, no matter what you’ve been going through, to feeling emotionally free, renewed, and powerfully inspired to go forth into your True Self and your True Life – is coming up very soon. So check out the link that appears with this video or in the show notes.
Let’s check out the six ways to prepare for going No Contact, and really this is about being prepared for the moves that the narcissist may do.
Number One – Self-Respect, Love And Truth
The foundation of going No Contact is accepting this truth: this person does not have the willingness or capacity to meet you at a level of kindness, care, truth, teamwork, and solution building.
You can’t change someone’s character. You can’t force them to be responsible and accountable and decent, no matter how hard you try. A person’s character is their character.
The only person you have control over is you. So rather than continuing to touch the stove that burns you, and taking the poison that is killing you, the only option is to pull away and save yourself.
Get really clear about this because people get very confused over going No Contact with a narcissist. No, you are not ghosting or doing silent treatment by doing No Contact. That’s something that abusers do to try to punish people.
Getting ready for, and then going No Contact, is an act of loving yourself. This is about your self-love, self-respect and truth and it means that finally, by doing that and saying, “No more,” you’re going to have a chance to heal, recover, and then Thrive. With a narcissist, there’s no other choice other than to make that choice and then after that come all the things that you need to prepare for.
Number Two – Being Blamed And Shamed
Narcissists don’t take responsibility, not honestly, and durably – it doesn’t hold. It’s too threatening to their fragile Inner Identity for them to admit, own or transform anything about their behavior.
Therefore they’re going to need to demonize you. They’re going to make out that it was their decision to end it and that you were the bad one. Narcissists can get really down and dirty and cruel with this.
That’s why No Contact is so important. It’s even really not a good idea to have a conversation about the ending of the relationship, because the narcissist is going to twist and turn. They’re going to say things to try to pull you back into the fray, with the blame, the unjust comments and the out of bound low blows.
If you were to break up with a non-narcissistic person, maybe you could have a rational conversation about finalizing the relationship and how that could be done in the best possible way for the family, the kids, each other, how to split up property and assets. That would be painful, but you’d be able to work it out like mature adults, but that is not how things roll with narcissists.
Get prepared to pull away, get out with what you need without the narcissist knowing, and leave a note or no note because actions speak louder than words, and then block off all direct contact. Any contact or barrages that do get through, ignore them. Don’t give them energy. It’s a trap. This includes the smears that you’re going to hear from other people.
Number Three – Being Ignored And Replaced
One of the most painful things that can happen in No Contact is a narcissist getting on with it like you don’t exist. A narcissist is a No Self, a consummate actor, sucking from life whatever they want in the moment. When one stage play ends, they can just move stage plays.
He or she may flaunt their new lover and make out their life is wonderful. He or she may make sure that you find out and know or simply disappear never to contact you again. Narcissists have an uncanny ability to do whatever it is that hurts you the most.
If your unhealed triggers have been to do with being replaced or ignored or abandoned, it’s a pretty sure bet that you’re going to go through this dramatically when you go No Contact.
It’s so important to turn inwards and heal whatever feels like is screaming inside of you rather than re-hooking to the narcissist, so that you can keep moving forward in your life every day. Getting closer and closer to Thriving, being totally free and creating real, genuine relationships in your life where people do have the ability to be kind and real and care for you is what you are aiming for.
For now, your greatest mission in this heartbreak and trauma is to come home to granting devotion, love and healing to yourself. If you do this (and at the end of the video I’m going to talk about one of my resources that can help you greatly) the pain and the devastation will go and you’re going to come out of this on the other side.
Number Four – Experiencing Love-Bombing And “Remorse”
The narcissist may try to win you back and the problem with this is that it’s only to hook you up for narcissistic supply again, it’s not about genuine love.
So how do you know that? Because the narcissist, no matter what he or she says in the moment and what crocodile tears they express, if you just fall straight back in and don’t accept their apology, if you don’t just say, “Okay, all right, I accept your ‘apology’.” No matter how convoluted or backhanded it is, if you don’t accept it, then they’re going to start attacking you again.
Or after a short period of time, all the nasty behavior returns, usually worse than it was previously, because the narcissist’s ego wants to pay you back for leaving them. It’s likely that you’ve already experienced this, that when you’ve gotten back together things just get worse. So you really have to resist the hoovers. Don’t entertain them.
If you feel yourself longing and feeling the nostalgia of the good times, work at shifting out all those feelings as well, all of the good and the missing and the loving ones, as well as the triggered painful traumatic ones. This really is about cleaning the narcissist out of your Inner Being with your inner work, with Thrive (I’m going to talk more about this at the end of the video) so that you can return home to your own solid self, loving yourself to where you’re not going to accept unhealthy, unsafe love again.
Number Five – Threats And Intimidation
Narcissists may try a variety of ways to get you hooked back in and it might start with threats and then it could move to hoovers, or maybe it’s the other way around. The narcissist may threaten that they’re going to start seeing somebody else, or they’re going to take the kids and the property away from you in court, or the threats may even be physical.
This can be absolutely terrifying and it triggers all of your deepest fears. Narcissists feed off your fear and they usually aren’t at all powerful without it. I can’t tell you how many people – who do the Thriver inner work and release the fears that the narcissist triggers – who have been able to detach and powerfully and fearlessly go through court. They’ve been able to get great wins, defeating narcissists and are able to rebuild their life. And they discovered that all of the threats turned out to be nothing but hot wind when the narcissist couldn’t get the triggered responses that they were trying to get to derail people that way.
This is what I believe. That when we do Thriver healing, when we let go of trauma and we fill with Source, which is the light and the power of our super-conscious and highest self. This dissolves darkness powerfully. It really is like having the shield of God, your higher power with you and within you. In the light there can be no darkness. I’ve seen this happen time and time again.
Having said that, it’s really important to be sensible and also keep safe and make sure you think it out when leaving a potentially dangerous narcissist. And I’m going to put up a link with this video, which is an article of mine that will give you a lot of resources regarding this. And it’s my article Is There a Right Way to Leave a Narcissist? You’ll see it in the show notes.
Number Six – Feeling Responsible Or Guilty
You may go through feeling sorry for the narcissist and how he or she may cope without you. Many of us at deep levels almost feel like we were the necessary healers for these people. We even felt like a parent to the broken person that the narcissist was.
Yet the truth is no matter how much you hang in there and try to love them back to health, you are only going to get yourself more abused in the process. So when these feelings arise, don’t succumb to them, do the inner work on them so you can let them go, you can keep cleaning them out, keep healing whatever arises.
If you do that every day, piece by piece, you will see that your trauma symptoms start melting away and you start filling with confidence and self-esteem and hope and energy and Life Force again. When you feel more solid within yourself, then you’re going to be able to build the life that you’re truly born to live.
In Conclusion
As I said at the start of this video, doing No Contact and sticking with it is one of the hardest, if not the biggest steps of narcissistic abuse recovery. By getting it right as soon as possible, you will avoid weeks, months, years, or even decades of a delayed or non-existent recovery.
Rather than pulling the band-aid off and then reopening the wound all over again and again, you can just rip it off and then dedicate to healing the wounds underneath the band-aid so that you don’t have to keep going back through this. You can heal and develop to never having to go through it again, as well as open yourself up to a new world of self and life that no longer resembles abuse, devastation, loss, and heartache.
So now I would love to help you achieve this. This is the last call because we’ve nearly closed the doors to Thrive. It’s upcoming really soon and Thrive is my 10-week Bootcamp interactive workshop series, where we meet each week in person together on Zoom with powerful information and Quanta Freedom Healings, which are so incredibly shifting. They can shift decades of trauma and patterns in minutes to help get you through anything and everything that you’ve struggled with in your recovery.
Doors are closing to this event really soon. There’s only very limited places left, and you can see Thrive on this link that comes up on the video or go to the show notes.
I hope that today’s Thriver TV episode has helped. As always keep smiling, keep healing and keep Thriving because there’s nothing else to do. I can’t wait to powerfully help you within the 10 weeks in Thrive.
Hi Melanie,
Going no contact, after being discarded, and having multiple affairs to settle and contend with with the narcissist is not easy to do…This is the most difficult, going no contact, as you said, thing I’ve ever done and probably will ever have to do.
I need to see her and have communication with her etc. and it really sucks! I do my best and try to apply the principles of NARP but it is so overwhelming….Her “blame game” continues and it continues to be painful. It is so very true that the nastiness and ugliness gets worse and some days I just can’t stand up to it!
I’m not complaining….I do accept that this is my situation and my truth! I remember the modules and I remember the necessity of going within and doing the inner work and practices that you teach us.
One positive aspect is that I have finally gotten mostly over blaming myself for everything….that took a lot of work….working with NARP was a significant reason for that….
It kind of feels like I am chipping away at a whole bunch of crap and getting rid of it….when my chipping tool finds an opening my inner light shines and all of these things that are so troublesome kind of go away….I wouldn’t be able to do these little things if it wasn’t for your teachings and NARP…..I really mean that! Thanks for continuing to send these messages out to us. Sometimes they are difficult to read but that’s OK because we need to accept the truth about who we are and what we’re doing and realize that we need to change our ways of living! Thank you Melanie.
Love ❤️🦋❤️
Keep detaching and healing Peter,
you are doing great!
Without her getting any energy – it will stop … absolutely.
Sending blessings!
Mel 🙏💞🦋
It is so, so, so difficult to go COMPLETELY No Contact. But, we must. I realized I had to do this, after an absolutely devastating, catastrophic discard by my partner of two decades (and our million-dollar home, the son we raised together…) where she forced the house into foreclosure, then ran away with all the money a half-hour post-escrow-closure after we struggled for weeks to stage a short-sale! I wasn’t devastated only financially, but psychologically (on so many levels) and socially (with the smear), professionally (ditto, she knew my professional contacts and ruined them) and with my family — which led me to discover that a powerful sister in my family is ALSO a narcissist! Took me until my 50s to figure it out, but thanks to Mel’s good guidance, this sister is 100% resonant with the behavior! Thank you, Mel!
Even still, I “cheated” on my going 100 PER CENT No Contact: I “watched” her on social media (including her eventual second marriage to her NEXT victim / hopefully-someday-to-heal-himself new husband). Then, because I remained “stuck” in so many aspects (health, both physical and mental) I stopped the “cheating,” making my break and FULL NO CONTACT absolutely 100%.
It was IMMEDIATE how things changed for me. That’s all I’m going to say about it. You won’t believe how incredible is your sense of relief and the huge strides you will make in your recovery.
If you are struggling with No Contact, please know that going ONE HUNDRED PERCENT No Contact is the ONLY way: no “stalking,” no whispering with mutual friends, no “checking up” via social media, NOTHING. It makes such a huge difference in recovery you will be astonished.
Yikes no whispering with mutual friends I didn’t even think about that. No contact process is tough no doubt about it but it does get better after some distance and provide clarity . Hope you are recovering and thriving now.
I’m now being threatened that he will use my 12 year old step to contact me through stepsons iPod . He already used my daughter, his step daughter to get to me but she is strong and most times won’t even tell me he is trying to talk to me through her to protect me.
Getting a restraining order solved my problem with a nasty No Boundries narc. He is my neighbor but now stays away from me, thank goodness. Don’t miss him at all now after 2 years of his abuse. Should have done it the first time he stole from me.
I think for people in relationships they chose somewhere along life’s way, with people whom they build a life with, have children with, own property with, etc., it is devastating. Those patterns of staying with someone who is zapping all your energies and invalidating your existence or what you created together, must be horrible. And, I think maybe some of what attracts people to narcissists later in life comes from living with someone (a parent or two) with that same behavior, earlier in life. We seek it out. I was lucky: I started to see this in my mom in my early teens or late elementary years. Lies, stealing, making up half stories, being a traitor (so we–the kids–would be be punished by my dad for things she did), belittling us when she didn’t feel she got enough attention…it was horrible. I confronted my mom, thinking back on it really makes me smile to know then that I was building my strength to do the right thing later in life, and she’d gaslight, cry, reject me, turn the tables…even though I wasn’t disrespectful, I was just asking as a kid, “Why don’t you tell the truth but you expect us to? Why do you want me to keep these stupid secrets from my siblings or from dad?” So, I started counseling in college years, just casually on the campus, and I had a great Methodist older retired minister who was a real good behavior coach who pinpointed a lot of it. It helped immensely to be able to sort all this out, what was so F-ed up. I realized it was not my fault, I realized I needed to distance myself, so I started that process. But, when it’s your parent or parents, it’s very hard…I did, for many years, take on the role of the “healthy third parent” and my siblings resented this, as they also play into the drama now so they don’t get the rejection that comes swiftly from 2 narcissistic parents. So, I had what happened which Melanie describes so well above, happen to me over the years: gaslighting, rejecting, begging me back, replacing me, blaming me, all the tricks. I realized after a bit of this, that it wasn’t worth it to include my parents any more, or my sisters, if they were going to play along. I wasn’t about taking sides, but you have to cut everyone off who is part of the cog of the wheel of narcissism so it becomes a much bigger cold turkey story when you begin to move away from it 100 percent. And, that’s not easy for some people to do. I did it pretty well, pretty easily, but I was lucky: I lived far away, even overseas for awhile, so I could set up those boundaries and move on more easily. I had a crappy boyfriend/fiance’ for awhile and I realized he was trouble and went right along with the pattern I’d not had with other boyfriends who loved unconditionally…or who at least liked me unconditionally. So, I made sure to go back to the healthy patterns, not to go after somebody to join in my life journey with who would be a miserable mistake. But, who did my parents LOVE? Mr. Horrible Boyfriend! Of course, they did not want to see me happy, having drama and a bit of unhappiness is what it’s all about when you live with a narcissist. So, I feel fortunate to have moved on, and yes, these articles I found a couple of years ago validate what I found 3 decades ago: I am happily married to a non-drama, non-narcissist, loving man and we have a great team. But, I broke away from my family completely 15 years ago, complete no-contact, and it took awhile because I thought something I said or did would be changing those people whom I’m related to…and making it a better relationship. Nope. It won’t happen. Run away, run far away! Life is about finding your peace, your happiness, and you deserve it. The steps above are hard, whether it’s breaking the cycles you grew up with, you attached to later in life with someone, or both. Cut off social media (I’m not on any of it because of the family ties I wanted to break), cut off anything that isn’t making your life happier, and don’t make excuses for people who are supposed to love you and do not have the capacity to do it. Follow your healthy instincts as you cultivate them and make those stronger! You can do it!
Excellent, JOinDC. Yes, EVERYthing: if it is toxic family members or even an ENTIRE toxic family, “buh-bye!” Social media connections? (Social media is the “enabling rocket fuel” of narcissistic behavior and relationships) Buh-bye! Professional relationships, deep friendships? Yes, if the toxicity is there, as hard as it is to do (and it IS hard), say “buh-bye!”
No Contact might seem contradictory, it might seem to make sense but be hard to fully engage in, it might present difficulties and need to become Modified, but it is crucial to full recovery from this abuse. Whether a spouse, partner, family member, colleague, fellow student, or even friend, “bullying is bullying” and “abuse is abuse.” Summon the strength to go 100% No Contact and feel the freedom that “those who matter won’t mind and those who mind don’t matter.”
Our “healthy instincts” (I love it!) can guide us, because they are the “clean” versions of ourselves, the core of who we truly are, speaking to us, begging us to listen. There is no longer, never again, “excuses” for people who are supposed to love me and don’t have that capacity. I turn my heel, fly further upward into my new, better life, and leave them behind to learn their own lessons.
Wow, this is like singing in a choir: I look around and find others not only saying the same thing, but beautifully and with the truth and harmony of the universe as we do so! Connecting with and applying this knowledge is truly amazing and such welcome healing.
Would you be able to address how to break contact energetically/psychically and not just physical, audible contact? I find that breaking contact physically has not been enough. Is what I’m feeling psychically that I’ve internalized them or are they still trying to have contact with my psyche somehow?
Hi Abbie,
my inner Thriver Healing processes are all about breaking the energetic / emotional / psychic connection, which is why it is so powerful and effective.
My greatest recommendation is to check out http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/thrive and http://www.melanietoniaevans.com/narp
I hope that this helps.
Mel 🙏💞🦋
I’m no expert, finding my own way for the first time, having been “seriously drubbed” (multidimensionally, as I said: emotionally, financially, socially, professionally, with my family, psychologically…) and it has literally taken me several years to find myself back to a stumbling, bumbling “I WILL get through this” sort of stasis. I feel like a boxer who has been punched and have “been down for a nine-count” (out of 10!) for years, much of the whole time thinking to myself “what the FUCK?…what the HELL?…” over and over again.
As I make sense of it, and I realized that my connection was no longer physical (she abandoned me as she ran away with all the money that represented my life’s wealth), my connection remained emotional and even “electronic” as I though I could “watch” her (it was a method of me stalking her, really) via social media. As I realized as/after I (CORRECTLY!) stopped doing this, well, ZOOM UPWARDS went my mental health.
It is what Mel and others say here: ALL of the connections must be broken when you go No Contact. This means energetically, physically, emotionally, audibly, “whispered among and between mutual friends” (about what one might be “up to”), really caring at all. My psychotherapist and I explore what I might feel towards her now, and while a couple of years ago I might have (still) said “intense anger, a sense of betrayal that is beyond what most people know as betrayal…” and so on, these days I would honestly say “I don’t really feel ANYthing towards her, not even pity…” (which lingered at the end of this processing). I’ve said that I wouldn’t even acknowledge her presence in a room if I found myself together with her. The reason being: the person I thought I knew never really existed. She is an imposter, a chameleon, only what she needs to be to present herself as “pretty enough” (or “whatever” enough) to get away with sucking the blood of her victim without seeming as if she is doing so. (But she is absolutely doing so).
I don’t know how to help you “complete” the break-away you need to complete so that your healing continues, but if you are feeling it “has not been enough,” then you ARE paying attention to your wonderful “healthy instincts.” I suggest that you explore whatever healing/spiritual/Melanie-like/psychotherapist-you-trust kinds of methods who can help you “slay the monster for good” that it is going to take to finally kill the beast. You seem to be on the right track, in fact, you are REALLY on the right track for paying attention to “but it doesn’t seem like I’m fully RID of this monster…” so keep paying attention to that. The method to do so will come to you as you continue to seek your best and highest way to find it.
This is so, so, so much a process of exploration and discovery. If you are tuned into Mel and Thriver culture, you are on the right channel. I wish you peace and tranquillity in your process of discovery ahead, as your volition will allow you to find what you seek. Stay on the path!
To Abbie Mason, I know I’m posting two in a row here, but I don’t believe I addressed what I meant to regarding your question of “Is what I’m feeling psychically that I’ve internalized them or are they still trying to have contact with my psyche somehow?”
First of all, again, I’m not an expert at this. I have been struggling with her discard of me for many years, and it DOES get better with time, though slowly. I now know that my earlier belief (as you question now) “is she still trying to have contact with my psyche somehow?” is effectively a “trick” on her part, an unwitting one, to be sure. It is a lasting effect of the abuse that has conditioned me/us to think that “what they do” is both (or either of) controlling or effective upon us. It isn’t, and this doesn’t last forever, especially as you are deliberate in your desire to heal and grow.
While it might have been both at one point (especially in the later part of our relationship), it is WE who control ourselves. THEY do not (they CANNOT) control us, and WE cannot control them. This lingering effect is the result of the psychological conditioning we have experienced by their abuse: this is DESIGNED to get us to believe that they actually DO have this sort of power about this. In reality, they do not.
While it may seem, feel, absolutely BE (in your mind) this way at times, please do know: especially if you are separated / No Contact / it is OVER, now, YOU are the captain of your ship. One of the most important lessons is the realization of the trickery of their entrapment. There are physical, chemical, psychological reasons for it seeming (or perhaps being, in your mind) this way during the abuse. But the reality is that your power is yours, not his or hers. It might have been chisled away from you via deception, trickery, guile, manipulation and all else “they” do, but the beauty of what is now your world is that your world is now yours.
It’s OK to say “s/he tricked me,” especially if that is what happened. It’s also OK to say “now that I’ve learned what this is, I will never allow it to happen to me again.” That’s what this is (largely) about.
This is a process. You are healing. Grieve your losses. Live your life far, far more powerfully now. I wish you well.
Melanie – one thing that comes across from the many articles I’ve read from you is how deep was your experience and how you had the courage to get out. This article hits on so many points that it really shook me to the core. I went no contact and it was incredibly freeing. My narc is now using their flying monkeys, though not many because they would have to admit at some level they have lost control and that wouldn’t do at all!!! The narc has outright lied and twisted scenarios so they appear victimized. I feel sorry for them but mostly I have no respect at all for them. I forgave myself first, then forgave them, and walked away. And there is no going back. It would only deepen the “punishment” – how dare I leave? Well, I did, I’m free and I’m safe.
Going no-contact is most defiantly the most powerful way to go. With having children, it is another whole set of rules, but same principals.
The smear campaigns have caused great trials within the whole extended family over the past 4 years. It is with great thanks to God, that to date, all the accusations of the Narc’s smear campaign have all come up as a high-conflict divorce with malicious intent.
This Narc, used police/child and family services/tried on the target parent’s family members, but that didn’t fly.
The Narc has totally involved her own family and extended family in her fight with lies/deceit and threats. The Narc’s own mother, who she saw on a regular basis, was unaware of her daughters divorce from the target parent (18 months had passed since the divorce was finalized in court).
The Narc’s mother called me with concerns that her grandchildren would rather stay with her than go home with their mother, but there was no arguing if they knew they were going with their father the next day (Narc’s mother shared with me many untruths (smears) that the Narc had told her about the father (target parent. I responded that much of what the Narc had told her mother was untrue and how the children are acting should conclude that….Narc’s mother agreed, that she phoned me because she said things weren’t adding up).
I had mentioned that I was hoping that things would improve after the divorce, she had no clue of any of the break up details, smear campaigns and constant attacks by her new live in (target parents cousin – that has caused huge rift in extended family…it didn’t have to be that way, but the mother of the cousin (Narc’s new target) – started her own smear campaign on her own family – she is not communicating with any of her 8 siblings (which, at first was very disturbing as we were considered a very close knit family group) really has been a blessing in disguise – that total no-contact has been a bonus and achievable – We had not realized to date, the drama that the one sibling had often caused – she was the youngest and we just accepted I guess).
18 months ago the Narc became pregnant with her Ex’s cousin (Narc’s new target). She has totally involved him into her fight, (Very disparaging comment to the target father when he picks up his children…target parent ignores, but the children are picking it up and upset with new target calling their father down and yelling at him…. that’s how the Narc keep the new target from realizing what is going to be happening to them next).
Not both of them (The Narc and her new target) have moved on to verbal degrading of the father of the children…the target parent of the children. They are telling the children things that are way beyond their years and understanding.
We have had to just take each comment as they come along and try to normalize it for the children at an age appropriate level. Sometimes, it takes a deep breath, and at times some space to regroup and figure out the best way to respond….some of the statements/questions from the children are disturbing to hear.
I think she has used up all that she can possibly say (I know, she will keep drumming up new hurtful lies!). But, the children seem to accept and be content for the time of our respectful explanations, and as they come we will continue to be as respectful as we can.
There seems to be fewer new comments/questions. The all seem much happier, having a safe and truthful environment and their concerns being addressed.
We have never retaliated in any way…going with “if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say nothing at all”….the old thumper on Bambi said it best. My mother-in-laws best taught secret.
We are hoping with ….no supply….the Narc will move on to the next target, could be new target or new targets mother. My bet, is on mother first (has new – first grandchild…excellent for manipulation tactics to begin…then splitting of son/mother….his greatest support.
It has not been easy, lots of soul searching, lots of reading on our part, hoping to give the children the best chance we can to normalize their very confusing life.
Suggestion for future presentations – There is not much on dealing with Narc’s and children….the courts (need education and almost a negotiator involved in these court cases – Judges are not always aware, and therefore not understanding in making proper choices for the children’s sake). Some Judges/lawyers (Canada) here still think you can Co-parent with a Narc….so doing the best we can and avoid all unnecessary contact.
Taking the Courses, helped us understand….Even being a nurse, I had heard of Narcissist’s in our day, we called them Egotistic, but it is so much more. The tips, the responses are invaluable. Although taking the high road is difficult, it repayments are so loving.
With God’s Grace and Mercy…..we will forge on in wisdom and humility for the sake of our beloved Children and Grandchildren!